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I have read reviews on this game and everyone pretty much states the game on normal is very easy. Im waiting for this games price to drop and even then it will have to have ranger mode other wise i wont even buy it since i play all my games on the hardest difficulty so i can have a real challenge.
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The point of boycotting it is principle. By buying this game you have shown all parties involved (retailers, developers, and publisher) that this implementation of DLC is acceptable.

The problem with boycotting by not purchasing something is that no one aside from the people boycotting is going to know why the game isn't selling. Also, in a lot of cases, it just harms the developer and doesn't actually solve anything. If a game doesn't sell, chances are the developer might just get shut down and leave the business practices of the retailers and publisher intact. Then we're down a developer, but still have the bad business practices. Nothing solved. Also, there will never be enough people who actually follow through with the boycott .

You know what would help? Buy the game then whine incessantly.. Start up a petition. Show the guilty parties that you want the games minus the bad business practices. I'm sure there's countless gamers on the internet that would be willing to sign a petition to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen. If the publishers and retailers don't take notice, it might just give the developers the push to stand up for themselves and give them evidence to show their publishers that their fans aren't happy. Sure, it's not full proof, but it's more likely to do something than the silence treatment.
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The problem with boycotting by not purchasing something is that no one aside from the people boycotting is going to know why the game isn't selling. Also, in a lot of cases, it just harms the developer and doesn't actually solve anything. If a game doesn't sell, chances are the developer might just get shut down and leave the business practices of the retailers and publisher intact. Then we're down a developer, but still have the bad business practices. Nothing solved. Also, there will never be enough people who actually follow through with the boycott .

You know what would help? Buy the game then whine incessantly.. Start up a petition. Show the guilty parties that you want the games minus the bad business practices. I'm sure there's countless gamers on the internet that would be willing to sign a petition to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen. If the publishers and retailers don't take notice, it might just give the developers the push to stand up for themselves and give them evidence to show their publishers that their fans aren't happy. Sure, it's not full proof, but it's more likely to do something than the silence treatment.

Umm....no.

If the Developers themselves actually cared about the customer, as you are wanting us to care about them, then they would step up initially and tell the Publisher and Retailer how wrong they are.

Buying something, even though you don't want to, and then crying about it isn't going to make any difference. Why? Because they already have your money at that point, why should they care? Doing what you are suggesting pretty much just confirms in their minds that you will buy it no matter what they do.
    
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The problem with boycotting by not purchasing something is that no one aside from the people boycotting is going to know why the game isn't selling. Also, in a lot of cases, it just harms the developer and doesn't actually solve anything. If a game doesn't sell, chances are the developer might just get shut down and leave the business practices of the retailers and publisher intact. Then we're down a developer, but still have the bad business practices. Nothing solved. Also, there will never be enough people who actually follow through with the boycott .

You know what would help? Buy the game then whine incessantly.. Start up a petition. Show the guilty parties that you want the games minus the bad business practices. I'm sure there's countless gamers on the internet that would be willing to sign a petition to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen. If the publishers and retailers don't take notice, it might just give the developers the push to stand up for themselves and give them evidence to show their publishers that their fans aren't happy. Sure, it's not full proof, but it's more likely to do something than the silence treatment.

Why would anyone give a damn about any amount of whining when the person doing said whining has already given them money?
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The problem with boycotting by not purchasing something is that no one aside from the people boycotting is going to know why the game isn't selling. Also, in a lot of cases, it just harms the developer and doesn't actually solve anything. If a game doesn't sell, chances are the developer might just get shut down and leave the business practices of the retailers and publisher intact. Then we're down a developer, but still have the bad business practices. Nothing solved. Also, there will never be enough people who actually follow through with the boycott .

You know what would help? Buy the game then whine incessantly.. Start up a petition. Show the guilty parties that you want the games minus the bad business practices. I'm sure there's countless gamers on the internet that would be willing to sign a petition to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen. If the publishers and retailers don't take notice, it might just give the developers the push to stand up for themselves and give them evidence to show their publishers that their fans aren't happy. Sure, it's not full proof, but it's more likely to do something than the silence treatment.

are you really buying their excuse? retailer's bad practice? requiring a preorder incentive isn't a bad practice, and nobody is complaining about that. stripping away basic/essential game functions is a bad practice, retailers did not told the devs to to that, it's the devs decision to do that, so yeah blame the devs not the retailers.

not buying will only hurt the devs? so what if they get hurt? that will teach them a lesson. don't buy their games and tell them why, that's the best thing to do. petition will do nothing if you keep on giving them your money.
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Umm....no.

If the Developers themselves actually cared about the customer, as you are wanting us to care about them, then they would step up initially and tell the Publisher and Retailer how wrong they are.

Buying something, even though you don't want to, and then crying about it isn't going to make any difference. Why? Because they already have your money at that point, why should they care? Doing what you are suggesting pretty much just confirms in their minds that you will buy it no matter what they do.

When you're at the mercy of someone who is either A. funding your game or B. stocking your game, it's probably not the easiest to stand up and say no. When a developer has proof a certain business practice could possibly risk future sales, it makes it a little easier.

Also, knowing future sales are at risk because their fans aren't happy with something means someone is going to start caring. Buying it shows you're a fan and not just some random whiner that might not have bought the game anyway and then whining on official forums, making petitions and whatnot show that you may not be around to buy any future titles. Simply not buying something isn't enough to say anything.

I would imagine developers do care in the first place. Why would they not when they're putting such considerable time and effort into developing a game? Sure they make money, but they work really hard for that money so there has to be some passion there.
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When you're at the mercy of someone who is either A. funding your game or B. stocking your game, it's probably not the easiest to stand up and say no. When a developer has proof a certain business practice could possibly risk future sales, it makes it a little easier.

Also, knowing future sales are at risk because their fans aren't happy with something means someone is going to start caring. Buying it shows you're a fan and not just some random whiner that might not have bought the game anyway and then whining on official forums, making petitions and whatnot show that you may not be around to buy any future titles. Simply not buying something isn't enough to say anything.

I would imagine developers do care in the first place. Why would they not when they're putting such considerable time and effort into developing a game? Sure they make money, but they work really hard for that money so there has to be some passion there.

yup, they work really hard for that money alright, they even want us to pay extra for a difficulty mode, greedy bastards.

you are making no sense actually, why do you keep on depending the devs? it's their own decision to charge money for a difficulty mode. retailers just want devs to provide preorder incentive, they did not dictake what to provide as an incentive.
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The point of boycotting it is principle. By buying this game you have shown all parties involved (retailers, developers, and publisher) that this implementation of DLC is acceptable.

I've also shown them that I value the developers, and I want the people working at 4A to keep their jobs.

I agree the pre-order crap needs to stop, but boycotting a game over something the developers had very little control over is silly.THQ promised retailers ranger hardcore mode as a preorder bonus 6 months ago and noone made a peep about it. Deep Silver and 4A were probobly stuck having to fulfill THQ's promise to retailers by the time people started complaining about it.

Before anyone else decides to boycott the game over something so small, read about the working conditions at 4A gaming.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/05/15/4a-games-working-conditions/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

Constant power and heat outages,very low budget and having to smuggle in computer equipment into the country.
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Retailers don't require added content to offer pre-orders on games. Therefore, I won't blame the retailers.
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