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Why does Zowie let minor cosmetic flaws pass through QC? Because their operating budget demands it, thats why. Same with Razer.
I doubt budget demands anything like that for Razer. They seem to be pretty popular on the peripheral market after all.
post #82 of 106
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Well, if there was a best mouse, it definitely would not be any of the ones you mention. Those are all mice to avoid like the plague.
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I doubt budget demands anything like that for Razer. They seem to be pretty popular on the peripheral market after all.

And yet you often hear complaints about Deathadders inconsistent build quality.
post #84 of 106
Also on the lookout.
I recently upgraded my Logitech MX300 to a Razer Taipan, which I couldn't quite get to grips with. I really like its shape and weight, also tracking and precision are flawless @400-600dpi on 1920x1080 for desktop and editing work. For gaming though the movement always feels weird. I can't really put my finger on it, but I'd say it doesn't feel as responsive as my MX300, the tracking is kind of sluggish. With my MX300 I always "felt" that I move the cursor/crosshair with my hand. With the Taipan it was noticeable that there was a device between my hand and moving the cursor. Seeing that I don't have experience with laser mice, I don't know whether this is lag or just the nature of laser sensors, is it?
Now to my nemesis: acceleration. I bought the Taipan despite reading about its flawed sensor (9818), but figured that I wouldn't notice it because my sensitivity is not low enough to reach the required speed reviewers came up with to notice acceleration. And really, I didn't experience noticeable acceleration at first. I play midish to high sens (7"/18cm to 360°), thus hardly ever exceed 0.50m/s, which is below the threshold that negative accel should kick in (~0.65m/s) as far as reviews state. However, my aim in QL was very inconsistent. At times it worked, and other times my cursor was not in the intended place. After a little testing myself I noticed negative acceleration at lower speeds than the tested ~0.65m/s, and the worst of all: those speeds didn't seem consistent. Sometimes it would accelerate while moving really slowly, the next time not, but when I moved a tad faster. All done on a QcK mini at 200dpi 6/11. Could the negative acceleration be induced by the QcK? I don't have another pad to test it on. It really is a shame because the precision and non-existent prediction of that 9800 sensor are really outstanding, and build quality and ergonomics are top. Which is why I bought another mouse when I walked by a LoL Abyssus on sale. Now that is one hell of a sensor! After a few hours my hand naturally found the most comfortable grip, and after tap-fixing the bottom part of it to reduce the really large LoD on my QcK, I instantly fell in love with its tracking in QL. Very much like my MX300, which I've been using (and caressing) since its release in 2002/3. Using it at 1800dpi in-game and 450dpi for desktop work, and can't see any jitter either. So now my Taipan gets used for desktop work because it's way more comfortable, and the Abyssus for FPS gaming. However, the Abyssus is a little on the light side, coming from a MX300 (100+g) it's really as if I don't hold a mouse at all smile.gif Also, build quality feels rather cheap. I like the materials used, but it doesn't feel as solid as my MX300 or Taipan, but kind of hollow.

So after this wall of text, here are my questions in addition to the ones I put in bold letters:
Is it possible to increase the Abyssus' weight? I'm also fine with buying yet another mouse, what other ambidextrous (I'm left-handed) mice are there that feature a flawless sensor like the Abyssus but are heavier? I know the ESR list with flawless sensored mice, but it's not been updated since 2007. Thank you for your input.
Edited by phl0w - 5/21/13 at 3:04am
post #85 of 106
I have the old g500 and love it thumb.gif
post #86 of 106
So, after A LOT of reading, I get that apparently Zowie's AM and FK are the closest (sensor and shape wise) one would come to a MX300 or a heavier Abyssus. Anything to look out for with these mice by Zowie? is the AM or FK closer to a MX300 in shape?
post #87 of 106
I am exchanging my AM for the EC2.

I love the performance but the AM shape made my hand cramp.
post #88 of 106
I only want three buttons, so my choices are limited.

I liked the Razer Abyssus so much that I bought four (two Standard Editions and two Mirror Special Editions), one for home, one for work, one for the wife and one for my laptop.
All four suffered a broken left click within a year. I tried to get them replaced/repaired RMA with Razer, but they fobbed me off with lame excuses every time.
I have never managed to break any other mouse, and if you Google "razer abyssus left click broken", you will find 56,800 results.

So I went back to my old Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1a which is really old and tatty, but at least it still works.
Since then, I managed to find a new (never opened but old stock) Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1a on eBay, which I am using now.

I would also consider:
1 - the Logitech G100, but there is no-one selling them in the UK at the moment.
2 - the Zowie's AM and FK, but the side buttons put me off.
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post #89 of 106
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Originally Posted by Motokiume View Post

I only want three buttons, so my choices are limited.

I liked the Razer Abyssus so much that I bought four (two Standard Editions and two Mirror Special Editions), one for home, one for work, one for the wife and one for my laptop.
All four suffered a broken left click within a year. I tried to get them replaced/repaired RMA with Razer, but they fobbed me off with lame excuses every time.
I have never managed to break any other mouse, and if you Google "razer abyssus left click broken", you will find 56,800 results.

So I went back to my old Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1a which is really old and tatty, but at least it still works.
Since then, I managed to find a new (never opened but old stock) Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1a on eBay, which I am using now.

I would also consider:
1 - the Logitech G100, but there is no-one selling them in the UK at the moment.
2 - the Zowie's AM and FK, but the side buttons put me off.

The Abyssus uses as most "gaming-grade" mice the decent Omron D2FC-F-7N for the left and right buttons. So either you had bad luck or you can expect to wear out other mice with the same buttons in about the same amount of time.
post #90 of 106
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The Abyssus uses as most "gaming-grade" mice the decent Omron D2FC-F-7N for the left and right buttons. So either you had bad luck or you can expect to wear out other mice with the same buttons in about the same amount of time.

yeah I've had an abyssus for about 2.5 years now and it still has the crispest nicest click of any mouse I have currently.
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