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post #11 of 18
Wasn't this already mentioned? Didn't Razer say there is only one native step with the 2013 DeathAdder?
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Wasn't this already mentioned? Didn't Razer say there is only one native step with the 2013 DeathAdder?
Skylit suggested it wouldn't have anything to do with interpolation, rather than modding the architecture somehow to adapt to higher resolutions. Or something. If that's the case, not even 6400dpi would be lag-free.
post #13 of 18
I suggested it isn't typical interpolation you find on many mice. Synapse scaling is rather unique compared to previous methods (ie rzr sensitivity) used in their mice. Even on 3.5G which scales its 3500 CPI resolution down to 100 in 100 increments.

Someone contacted Razer support and claimed their mice aren't interpolated, but I believe that person was referring to over max native CPI value or 2 counts for each dot. Not how its been defined among forums.
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I'd also like to know if the talk about input lag is really true. It probably is, but on the other hand I've seen nobody exactly say they've thoroughly tested it and established it really is there for certain.

It could be synapse itself or a combination of both SROM code + synapse. 3.5G feels like crap with it installed.
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Linear IPS is a dead give away biggrin.gif
Edited by Skylit - 5/14/13 at 5:48pm
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

I suggested it isn't typical interpolation you find on many mice. Synapse scaling is rather unique compared to previous methods (ie rzr sensitivity) used in their mice. Even on 3.5G which scales its 3500 CPI resolution down to 100 in 100 increments.

Someone contacted Razer support and claimed their mice aren't interpolated, but I believe that person was referring to over max native CPI value or 2 counts for each dot. Not how its been defined among forums.
It could be synapse itself or a combination of both SROM code + synapse. 3.5G feels like crap with it instal
Seems I got that one wrong then tongue.gif

So just bump to 6400 and put your sensitivity to around 0.1? Sounds convenient...
post #15 of 18
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I'd also like to know if the talk about input lag is really true.

I have a Krait 2013 from Korea, which has the same sensor. The input lag from the smoothing algorithm, or whatever they have enabled in the firmware, makes the mouse unusable to me.

There's my review of it: http://www.overclock.net/t/1364062/the-new-krait-2013-is-a-piece-of-junk

Ironically, I just got a G600 for free and have never used an Avago 9800 laser before and notice similar behavior on this mouse when using normal DPI settins at 6/11 cursor speed. I just tested cranking the DPI through the roof and using 3/11 cursor speed and now the mouse feels more normal, but still a little off. They put in this smoothing crap to try and make using 8000 DPI more viable on Avago 9800 and new Razer mice.
Edited by r0ach - 5/14/13 at 7:48pm
post #16 of 18
I still thinkg the da2013 is superior to the krait 2013.
post #17 of 18
I'm guessing the native resolution is 6400 cpi. While it gets somewhat jittery there, the jitter isn't uniform-patterned, and is more likely to be caused by the surface properties and me not being able to move mouse consistently at such a high sensitivity (Windows pointer is set to 6/11).

Regarding the smoothing issue you're all talking about: in my opinion you're all making a too big fuss out of it. Smoothing is there, at low speeds, and is most noticeable when drawing a 45 degrees straight line, which gets exactly 2 pixels thick (opposing to 1 px horizontal and vertical lines). As I perceive it (from MS Paint tests), the controller merely duplicates 1 pixel movements on X/Y axis when Y/X axis position is changed. The thing is that the final cursor position doesn't change much (or at all?) from where it should have been without smoothing. It never made a difference anyway, and I have a feel the DA2013 is at least as accurate as WMO at sub-malfunction speeds. Your personal experience may vary, but the idea that this "flaw" could be not a big of a deal in the end.

Also, feel no input lag on my DA2013 compared to WMO.
post #18 of 18
I say just buy a deathadder 3.5g black or the 3,5G Led your choice use legacy drivers which causes no problems and pick from 450/900/1800/3500 dpi. 1800/3500 is the native on the 3.5g safest route if you hate synapse drivers which I do agree it made my razer naga epic feel like crap too
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