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i say most do it cause of price you can get the same perf out of amd or better for 50 to up to a few 100 bucks cheaper sometimes the driver problems are really not a issue any more amd has been on the ball about fixing driver probleems when the new frame metering driver comes out its going to be hard to pass up any amd card for crossfire. Not to mention they are stronger in compute for boinc and folding even now with the new core 17 a titan does put out more points in folding on the core 17 but for the price you can run 3 7970s and tripple its points.
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I had bad experience with an AMD card (7970). It was hot AND loud - and I can only deal with 1 of those 2. After that and never haing problems with previous Nvidia cards I came back to Nvidia. I do get jealous seeing the performance of some AMD cards but that bad experience keeps me away with the notion that they look good on paper - but actually using them is a whole 'nother story

Just my experience. We usually stick to what works for us. Bottom line
   
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heres how I think it is:

GENERALLY, nvidia has higer performing cards, then amd comes out with an equally/ close performing card several months later (when it is now cheaper) and then the card is cheaper

its almost like they are a generation behind, in some aspects. they have started to get closer and in some aspects overpass. but overall nvidia seems to be domination performance.



that plus brand loyalty, one person may get their first nvidia card and its a dud, so they almost always assume thats it the corp as a whole. lol as rare as that may be, that can be a huge issue.

me I have actually never had any issue with either, I have seen that most of what I do tends to side with nvidia, with programs support etc. so I stay that way but I have bought store computers that came with amd (ati) vid cards and never noticed anything wrong. HOWEVER they were not gaming / ultra performance ones, the only ultra performance ones I buy are nvidia, they are the forerunners for GPGPU computing and such. not to mention hold the majority of support for DirectX and game publishers support but that's more of a corporate thing probably.

AMD (ATI) gives you very good value for your money which makes this debate un-winnable for either side, BUT RAW power still comes from nvidia however at a cost. same as intel.vs amd
\although AMD now owns ATI its still ati/radeaon in my book. not that that matters but for sake of separating the video cards and CPU discussions lol


its just that it they both released GPU's at the same time for the same price they would be quite comparable I am sure. (some better in some aspects and vice cersa)

however with the lag between product release (which is why they do this) and how technology and manufacturing process get more efficient and cheaper its easier to make a product perfom better and cheaper than the last released product (generally speaking of course)
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I'm a fan of AMD's Pricing & Game Bundles.
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TWO WORDS: Gaming Evolved.*
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
And overclock-ability
And price/performance
And compute (bitmining anyone?)
And memory bus
And more VRAM at high end tier (HD7950+)
etc.

* for current gen AMD also provides games' expansion retroactively ; Nvidia's Free to play bundle looks pathetic in comparison and previously when their Assassin's Creed promo was on it also came with Samsung SSDs , Borderlands 2 isn't as big a title as Bioshock for example

tbh, if Nvidia fielded a decent GK110 for less than $500 I'd have a look at their GTX 700 series
Edited by AlphaC - 5/14/13 at 5:50pm
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For me it was a mix of things. I've owned plenty of cards from both companies... I know it's mostly my luck, but just about every Nvidia card I've owned has bellied up or gave me problems that I could not stand... For this build, I actually originally purchased a 4GB GTX 680 and waterblock for it but didn't even take it out of the shrink-wrap before I sold it and got the 7970 (and put some money back in my pocket to boot). For some reason the thought of building another system using nvidia in it gave me a bad taste in my mouth. There is a high probability that it would have been fine, but it just made me feel uncomfortable... Plus the damn thing was expensive. Performance per dollar is important to people like myself who don't have excess amounts of cash floating around.

With the ATi(AMD) side of things, the cards have always functioned flawlessly. I've never had one ATi/AMD card go bad. I've also had better overclocking luck with ATi/AMD. I'm not saying that they don't have their problems (occasional driver/game related issue), but nothing that prevents the card from working. I've had driver and game related issues on the nvidia side of the fence, too... but only with my crap luck, have I had cards go completely bad (like GPU fried or similar) on my Nvidia cards. This is not the norm, but it's my experience and it makes me hesitant. Plus, my last nvidia card I had for any decent length of time, the 9800 GTX was plagued with driver crashes, despite having no hardware issues. It just seemed that 8 out of 10 drivers I used with that card would crash even at desktop... It was enough to make me want to throw the computer out the window. To sum it up, the ATi/AMD cards I've owned tended to "stay" in the system longer than when I owned Nvidias... They would stay until I wanted to upgrade, as opposed to when they died out and were absolutely un-usable (with the exception of the 9800 GTX which was all driver-related).

Let's see...
3DFX VooDoo 3 (Used till I wanted upgrade) (Irrelevant as 3DFX is gone)
Nvidia TNT2 (Used periodically, but often switching back to VooDoo3 till both were replaced - c'mon, back then 3DFX's glide was THE api to use for many games)
Nvidia GeForce 2 GTS (Used till crapped out due to un-known reasons, though I will admit it was awesome until that point)
Nvidia GeForce 4 (Very short life-time, it cooked itself... GPU dead - good thing I saved up a bunch of money to waste on that one...)
ATi 9500 Pro (Used extensively, modded, overclocked, etc till I upgraded - sold card after upgrade)
ATi 9800 Pro (My longest living video card - this lasted me longer than it should have. Overclocked. Gave to ex-girlfriend after I was done with it where it lived out the rest of it's days till she built a new system)
Nvidia 9800 GTX (Great card at stock when drivers didn't crash non-stop... wasted money on a water-block on it as over-clocks were completely unstable on it. Constant driver problems at stock, why would OC be any different? Sold card after upgrade)
AMD 5870 (and xfire) (After coming from the 9800GTX, this was a breath of fresh air... Powerful card, ran everything I threw at it with great performance and overclocked like a champ till I added a second one in crossfire (also overclocked just as good) which I used as what I would consider my best set-up ever till I did my new build with the 7970 - sold both after upgrade)
AMD 7970 (again, super powerful card, runs everything I throw at it well)

I'm in no way a fan-boy, I just feel like I've been burnt by nvidias products in the past and I have bad luck with them. I'm sure I'll own nvidia again some-day, but I've been enjoying AMD and they've been good with me so far. Due to this, when I do builds for non-gamers or casual gamers, I also always use ATi/AMD cards as I've never had one go bad... I only put nvidias in a system for someone if they specify that they want it... besides they usually cost more. I've had friends unfortunately have their nvidia cards burn themselves out as well. I don't know what the deal is, but I chock it up to crap luck.

We need both companies to exist though, heck I wish there were even more choices in the marketplace like their used to. Heck, we used to have Nvidia, ATi, Matrox, 3DFX, PowerVR, and more...

I say choose what works best for you, get the best card you can get for the money you can afford. Both companies offer great products with different features/values.
Edited by TamaDrumz76 - 5/14/13 at 5:47pm
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For me I had the money for Nvidid, plus a sale that got me my 670s at a really good price, and the physx is a plus
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Faster hash cracking
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TWO WORDS: Gaming Evolved.*
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
And overclock-ability
And price/performance
And compute (bitmining anyone?)
And memory bus
And more VRAM at high end tier (HD7950+)
etc.

* for current gen AMD also provides games' expansion retroactively ; Nvidia's Free to play bundle looks pathetic in comparison and previously when their Assassin's Creed promo was on it also came with Samsung SSDs , Borderlands 2 isn't as big a title as Bioshock for example

tbh, if Nvidia fielded a decent GK110 for less than $500 I'd have a look at their GTX 700 series

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Faster hash cracking

its all what platform the developers desinged on usually that will perform the best.


also bitcoin mining (or hash cracking as you so secretly called it (same thing)) ie cryptography, iw one thing and only that programs design was for AMD, look at folding it was optimized for Nvidia, its also why more efficient lower power cost ASICs (application specific Integrated circuits) are better than both amd and nvidia, they were designed for it.

you cannot judge by one aspect, hell even stream processors (the sorta equiv to cuda cores) are not the same thing and are manufactured WAY different. when you try to compare apples to oranges you have to way the pros and cons for each thing AND test them doing several things. the more you test it the better you can compare.

for example if amd does better in 3 out 100 and then nvidia is better on the rest well if you choose only 4 things (three of the AMD things included) then it will artificially seem like amd is better, the same goes the other way, the

the best way to determine which is better is to use the one tailored more to your needs. if you game, program, render, etc etc one will work better for you. THATS how you plan a build if you base it on false pre tenses then you will be unhappy and then decide that brand sucks lmao
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