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Originally Posted by lock2701 View Post

Ok no worries, but you did say stressing and benching for 30 days+.

but doesn't matter, what I wanted to say is still the same. High voltage but moderate load is better than those guys stressing 100% for days. People said it all the time, I did 8 hrs but then error at 12hrs so now I do 24hrs / 48hrs. I'm not afraid of high voltage but everytime I run linx/ibt/prime95 I feel pain for my CPU.

BTW, 1.49v unstabled for 4.7Ghz sounds about right for your chip. You probably need 1.4x vcore for 4.6Ghz and way over 1.5v for 4.7Ghz judging by the voltage you run for 4.5Ghz.

I run 4.7Ghz at about the same voltage as your 4.5Ghz and look how much vcore I need it to bump up 300Mhz. At 4.8Ghz I'm near 1.45v already. It's like what Prophet in Crysis 3 said "Victory cost a bit more everytime biggrin.gif).

Anyways, these people overreacted. Just because I ran 1.6v for 5Ghz doesn't mean I run it everyday It was just to see the limit, I run 4.7Ghz for daily uses, duh! Besides $350 for 3770k, 365 days a year 95c a day if the chip died in a year, com'on! They acted like I'm beating a 5 years old with a baseball bat or something.

(was stressing and benching chip for 30+ days at 1.35

Again, re-read what i wrote. tongue.gif

my average workload is 80%cpu 80%ram +++ so my "stable" needs to actually be stable, so everytime im "working" it's just about as much as a bench or stress test biggrin.gif

my only point was for 1month i had no whea errors. i ran 1.49 for not even 1 day and the 1month stable oc i had now needed more vcore frown.gif

sucks i dont have a golden chip eh biggrin.gif
  
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(was stressing and benching chip for 30+ days at 1.35

Again, re-read what i wrote. tongue.gif

my average workload is 80%cpu 80%ram +++ so my "stable" needs to actually be stable, so everytime im "working" it's just about as much as a bench or stress test biggrin.gif

my only point was for 1month i had no whea errors. i ran 1.49 for not even 1 day and the 1month stable oc i had now needed more vcore frown.gif

sucks i dont have a golden chip eh biggrin.gif

Your chip might not have been broken in yet most cpus take 1-3 months and they degrade a little my 2600k has been at 5ghz for over a year with 1.48-1.5 even folding and boincing on it off and on and gaming haset degraded any sence the first few months.
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post #73 of 162
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I knew it was 1.35v but to me it's the same. 1.35 @ 100% for 30 days that's a lots of stressing.

Try run prime or whatever you use to test, look at its result. They all make your computer produce the same result (e.g 3.355245e x 3141 something like that) while make you CPU as hot as possible.

One of 2 things or both happened to you CPU is. It's degraded from 1.35v 30 days stress or your 1.35v isn't stable yet. Passed prime with "x" voltage does not means its stable in the real world.
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Btw don't sweat it man I was only trying to help but I think you misunderstood me a long the way.

The thing is I hate those stress tests. I used to run them but now I realised they're useless and wasted my time.

Only run them to see what my vcore is and my temp (1 min top).
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I knew it was 1.35v but to me it's the same. 1.35 @ 100% for 30 days that's a lots of stressing.

Try run prime or whatever you use to test, look at its result. They all make your computer produce the same result (e.g 3.355245e x 3141 something like that) while make you CPU as hot as possible.

One of 2 things or both happened to you CPU is. It's degraded from 1.35v 30 days stress or your 1.35v isn't stable yet. Passed prime with "x" voltage does not means its stable in the real world.

my "work" is basically a stress test though, the computer wont run under 80/80 cpu/ram ever

My overclock was stable at 1.35 for over 30 days. just from less than 1 day running 1.4-1.495, it degraded my chip :/

otherwise it would be a real weird coincidence for something that worked with no whea errors for 30 days randomly decided to give me one

i have a bad chip i know biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Bal3Wolf View Post

Your chip might not have been broken in yet most cpus take 1-3 months and they degrade a little my 2600k has been at 5ghz for over a year with 1.48-1.5 even folding and boincing on it off and on and gaming haset degraded any sence the first few months.
could be eh?
might have worked with what i was doing but bringing it to new voltage/speeds might have made the chip work its but off and aged it biggrin.gif
i was going by what people told me on how ivy is better with voltage, at this rate my sandy was better.... frown.gif guess u need a good chip to appreciate a super high clock
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That is why I said test your chip with games. you stressed your CPU 100% for 30 days what you reckon?

1.49v at 100% load for 30 days+, you'd better off running at 1.5v doing normal things. If you don't get errors for doing normal things then it doesn't matter whether it's 100% stable or not.

try go to the gym and exhaust yourself in one session vs moderate workout over 5 days, you'll know what I mean. These stress test make your system do things that it never will.

That's pretty poor advice. The purpose of stress testing is to spend a much shorter amount of time finding out if your chip is stable... instead of finding out a month later when your computer crashes during normal use.
post #77 of 162
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You will find out months later even with those stress tests if its not stable anyways. Because you passed prime 24 hrs means its 100% stable?
LOL!
You completely missed the point BTW.

By not using stress test program's you will stabilise your pc better.

In otherwords, everyday you are tweaking you pc to stable it. Stable it on the go with real world environment!

Again, LOL prime stable = 100% stable. Haven't you heard people reporting 48hrs pass and crashed 5 mins into game?

Spend 3-5 hrs on prime95 to find 1 thread stopped working vs ran 3dmark 11 and found out it crashed in less than 5 mins. Which method is "shorter"? And 3dmark 11 is not even a CPU stress test. If CPU not stable it's almost guaranteed to crash during physics test!
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You will find out months later even with those stress tests if its not stable anyways. Because you passed prime 24 hrs means its 100% stable?
LOL!
You completely missed the point BTW.

By not using stress test program's you will stabilise your pc better.

In otherwords, everyday you are tweaking you pc to stable it. Stable it on the go with real world environment!

Again, LOL prime stable = 100% stable. Haven't you heard people reporting 48hrs pass and crashed 5 mins into game?

Spend 3-5 hrs on prime95 to find 1 thread stopped working vs ran 3dmark 11 and found out it crashed in less than 5 mins. Which method is "shorter"? And 3dmark 11 is not even a CPU stress test. If CPU not stable it's almost guaranteed to crash during physics test!

"By not using stress test program's you will stabilise your pc better." worst opinion you posted so far biggrin.gif

Stabilizing and stress testing doesn't occur with just one program

Why don't you go do some video editing and 2hours into editing bsod because your OC isn't stable. You going to bump your vcore up after you lose 2hours of work?
  
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post #79 of 162
As long as you can keep temps under 90*C as max temp, I don't think there's anything wrong with running an Ivy at 1.6v. However, I honestly would not recommend doing that if you do a 24/7 compute workload, and frankly given how high that voltage is I'd say you should keep your max temp solidly below 85*C (use small fft for temp testing).

I wouldn't recommend going over 1.6v, even if you are stable, either. Frankly, if you only did 5 minutes, I seriously doubt that means you could pass 30+ hours of prime95 custom blend, with max ram used, and made sure you had zero WHEA errors in event viewer (check out the thread 'how i got out of wheaville' so you get a prompt whenever whea errors occur, just check your event viewer). For reference, I can pass 24 hours p95 just fine at 1.4v, but in order to avoid WHEA errors I needed 1.55v.

As for what stress test is best, honestly I think 30+ hours of custom prime95 is the fastest way to figure out stability, but if you can find something that crashes it quicker, go for it. Personally, I found that streaming h264 on medium preset and mining on scrypt with a cpu miner (not talking about profit, talking about stress testing so not against forum rules, seriously you wont make profit on mining on scrypt..... its only for stress tests) actually revealed instability quicker than prime95.

However for ram testing, nothing but blend will do.

As for the protection plan, they aren't going to accept an RMA when your chip degrades because it'll still likely do stock settings just fine.
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Lol, seriously these ppl are amusing.

Why would I care if it can run 30hrs of prime or not. I stated before I RUN 4.7GHZ FOR DAILY USE!!!!!!!!

1.6 for 5GHz WAS ONLY TO SEE WHAT WOULD TAKE FOR IT TO RUN AT 5GHZ!!!!! Geezzz!!

And BTW "using work to test" means using work to test EXACTLY as it said TO TEST to put it simple for you to understand

"You stable it for the purpose that you use it for. And by TESTING it implies that you don't use real work, you know THE IMPORTANT STUFF???

Why would you use an unstable system to do real work??? But use it to test. How many time do I have to repeat??? Can you understand now??

If not, you know whatever go run 48hrs of prime or something.
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