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Partially true but it is a bit more complicated than that

any wisdom to offer guys?/
post #22 of 65
Why are you asking OCN for an IP address? We do not work for your ISP, nor do we work for the IANA, and have no control over which IP address your ISP assigns you. It's also doubtful your ISP is going to give you a static IP address unless you pay more for it as well. I find it humorous how demanding some people get when they have 6 posts and understand nothing about the topic they are asking about.
post #23 of 65
Matthew - Unfortunately, the IP address you get is assigned by your ISP, there's nothing you can do to guarantee a lower numbered address short of calling your ISP and requesting a specific address -- and 99.9% of the time, they're not going to give it to you because somebody else already has it, or their routing infrastructure won't permit giving a home user an address outside of their designated subnet for their street, neighborhood, etc.

While there MIGHT possibly be some poorly written MMO games out there that look at your IP address in determining what order things are processed, it's unlikely that it would translate into any advantage or disadvantage in actual game play.

Because there is a very limited number of IP addresses that are possible, ISPs are forced to allocate their addresses very carefully. There are usually subnets for individual streets or neighborhoods, which collect in a router of multiple neighborhoods, and then feed into a central ring or hub within a city or region, and then across the backbone to the Internet. From the "neighborhood" level where you are, you can only get an IP address within the subnet that serves your own neighborhood. If you manually chose another IP address (e.g. override the DHCP address provided to you) - #1 you'd be in violation of your ISP's terms of services and quite possibly cause a neighbor to stop working, and #2 if you chose an address outside of your subnet, you'd get no IP routing at all - as the static routes on the ISP's routers won't accept your traffic, and won't route anything back to you.

My professional advice is, give up. Or call your ISP and ask them for what you think you want, which is possibly the lowest number IP address within the subnet that serves your block of homes.

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post #24 of 65
Well it still comes down to that you will need to lease the IP address from your ISP.

Even if you employed an IP Spoofing method it would not work since you would not get packets back from the game server. It would be one way...which is why it is used for DoS attacks. Though I've done it to test web applications too. made it appear that that a hundred users were logging in when it is was just me running a script. However...if I actually monitored it the web page would not be displayed since the packets would be routed to the fake IP address and not to the one I am looking at.
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yanks
before being able to read all of the posts since last refreshed I was influenced to first write back to you.
Firstly, you have not read the conversation in its entirety.
Second, I am new, but it has not been my goal to ask any questions repetitively and so far I am doing a good job.

Lastly and most bothersome is that you advise me to get a static ip, which I have done, and which has caused me a week worth of work undoing and redoing various aspects of my technical configurations which was quite a task for somebody who is only now learning these concepts and unique terms. All because a technician initially mislead me by promising the ability to choose any ip in their network as long as i purchase static ip, which i did and have since had reverses as it was untrue through them
post #26 of 65
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Thanks guys
Now i want to clarify that I am looking at a VPN as the means to this request. One of the reasons I posted on this site was in hopes of receiving tips on how to find a VPN server that can provide me with such an ip and any other relevant information


My Request: What it is that I Need?
I need an ip address in which the third section of numbers is a number such as 8, 16, 24, 32, 40, 48 – anything so long as it is a factor of 8.
I need the fourth section to be a number as low as possible, such as 0, 1, 2 , 3 or 4. - anything below 6, preferrably. *The first and second section do not have an effect and can be anything*
For example, X.X.8.1 or X.X.208.3 or X.X.24.1 ( Just EXAMPLES)
The Lowness of the Fourth number is extremely important but only relevant so long as the third number is a factor of 8. After considering the lowness of the fourth number, the lowness of the third number is also relevant but not as important to me.
HERE are a few of the messages I’ve received throughout various correspondences with techs from two of the many many vpn providers out there.
I ask that somebody here please direct me on where to go from here! Thanks!
Hi Matthew,
unfortunately, our proxy will not work for what you want. The game you are referring to runs on Java, which runs outside the browser. Because of this, even if you are using a proxy in your browser, the game will know what your real IP address is.
Since the game runs on Java, which runs outside the browser, because of this, the game runs on through the Java traffic tunnel which doesn't connect with the VPN traffic, even if you are using a proxy in your browser, the game will know what your real IP address is since the Java is forcing it through a different Traffic tunnel. For your friend that is able to do this, are they using our service? If so they might have be using different configurations that may allow this. I could suggest contacting your friend to see which service they are using and if they made any configuration changes. With making changes to game configurations this isn't something we support. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. If you have any further inquires please let us know.
A possibly relevant post found online
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5680006/a-java-based-vpn
post #27 of 65
I hope you play better than asking questions tongue.gif

For me it's all blah...

But hey it's a free world and one might ask what he wants, right thumb.gif

Not sure if an IP adress is causing "faster" internet connections...

You do have fastest internet available in your country I assume?

And still, how is that connection routed?

But anyway, game on! rolleyes.gif
   
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You should be looking into an actual VPN and not just an HTTP proxy as by those emails the "tech" you spoke to appears to be a moron. For Java (and pretty much everything else) it's easier to just encapsulate your entire LAN connection rather than specific applications/protocols. Most VPN providers have their own software or recommend software and also provide a list of available IP's to obtain. However, what you're trying to do may end up backfiring as the traffic being routed to a separate server, even if it's within your same region, is going to increase your ping times dramatically and will most likely reduce your overall performance rather than increase it.

tl;dr go pay for a real VPN and not a crummy proxy and deal with any latency issues or don't bother as it's probably not worth the cost/trouble.
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You should be looking into an actual VPN and not just an HTTP proxy as by those emails the "tech" you spoke to appears to be a moron. For Java (and pretty much everything else) it's easier to just encapsulate your entire LAN connection rather than specific applications/protocols. Most VPN providers have their own software or recommend software and also provide a list of available IP's to obtain. However, what you're trying to do may end up backfiring as the traffic being routed to a separate server, even if it's within your same region, is going to increase your ping times dramatically and will most likely reduce your overall performance rather than increase it.

tl;dr go pay for a real VPN and not a crummy proxy and deal with any latency issues or don't bother as it's probably not worth the cost/trouble.

What?

Yeah...don't use a proxy or SOCKS5. Even if a game's engine gives people with a certain IP an advantage, that advantage will be lost if you bounce your connection all over the world. Don't even think about this...proxies and such are only useful for web browsing or sustained downloads or other usage that does not need a fast ping.

Even the VPN would need something done by the game server owners for you to hook up to it. Something they will not likely want to do. Just play the game as best you can. You cannot change your IP without dealing with your ISP and keep a playable ping. It cannot happen.
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What?

Yeah...don't use a proxy or SOCKS5. Even if a game's engine gives people with a certain IP an advantage, that advantage will be lost if you bounce your connection all over the world. Don't even think about this...proxies and such are only useful for web browsing or sustained downloads or other usage that does not need a fast ping.

Even the VPN would need something done by the game server owners for you to hook up to it. Something they will not likely want to do. Just play the game as best you can. You cannot change your IP without dealing with your ISP and keep a playable ping. It cannot happen.

It sounds like the game calculates something based on the IP numbers. If that advantage offsets the ping increase, then whatever he wants to do with his time/money tongue.gif.

I agree that a VPN service is the way to go. If you use the right software, you should be able to route any connection on your PC through it.

My advice is: Find a VPN service that will have an IP address you want.. then make a separate topic on OCN to find the proper software to accomplish what you want.
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