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I can't believe some of the comments on here.

Just because the 780 is an improvement over the 680 ($499), it should be more expensive?

Of course the 780 will be an improvement over the 680, else what would be the point or why would anyone upgrade?

By some logic here, since the 880 will be an improvement over the 780 ($650), it should be priced at what now $850?

What about the 980, should that be $999 when it releases?

NO, base price should remain around $400-$500 for the X80 GTX card - period. Otherwise, you could reason that each iteration of the card should fetch a price that will eventually reach the stratosphere.

Your point is not valid.
The 7970 was 600-700$ at launch... and I don't see why nVidia wouldn't do the same.
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post #142 of 373
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I can't believe some of the comments on here.

Just because the 780 is an improvement over the 680 ($499), it should be more expensive?

Of course the 780 will be an improvement over the 680, else what would be the point or why would anyone upgrade?

By some logic here, since the 880 will be an improvement over the 780 ($650), it should be priced at what now $850?

What about the 980, should that be $999 when it releases?

NO, base price should remain around $400-$500 for the X80 GTX card - period. Otherwise, you could reason that each iteration of the card should fetch a price that will eventually reach the stratosphere.

AMD currently has nothing to compete with the 780. If it was released AMD might be forced to take a loss on their cards to keep selling cards. Much like intel nVidia is in a duopoly in which they do not want to put the other company out of business. If the 780 is $500(i wish) I don't see a reason why someone would buy a 7970 over it (at $420).
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699$ is a little bit overkill I think. Nvidia keeps AMD on a tight leash controlling the prices for the best graphic cards. I would do the same If I were in Nvidias position, but I am disappointed by the lack of involvement from AMD to make a long term effort thwarting Nvidias dominance in high end performance.
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Your point is not valid.
The 7970 was 600-700$ at launch... and I don't see why nVidia wouldn't do the same.
$550 actually which was what 3GB GTX580s were selling for.
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699$ is a little bit overkill I think. Nvidia keeps AMD on a tight leash controlling the prices for the best graphic cards. I would do the same If I were in Nvidias position, but I am disappointed by the lack of involvement from AMD to make a long term effort thwarting Nvidias dominance in high end performance.
I agree though AMD seems to be a jack of all trades and master of none. CPUs, GPUs, APUs, Workstations, Consoles, Ram etc...

Still though. Up until the Titan released the 7970 was top dog and that card was released in late 2011.
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They get away with murder both AMD and NVIDIA, in my opinion, and early adopters pay through the nose. If it works for both parties so be it.

I'm saying, let rationality take over your impulse since eventually initial prices will fall between $400-500. The consumer should not allow them to get away with it. Usually at that point drivers are better and aftermarket cards with better overclocking and cooling capabilities can be obtained for cheaper. Be smart.
 
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Well, maybe we'd see some sort of 7870XT dual GPU card or something to fill in that bracket for AMD between 7970 GE and 7990? I don't think AMD is completely powerless here, they just need to get the fixed frame time drivers and they're handcuffed until then.

But that does bring up a good point. AMD is leaving a massive pricing gap in their line up, perhaps Nvidia will do the same with GTX 780 and Titan.

From what Alatar was saying it looks like Nvidia is going to dump all the GK110s that couldn't make K20 quality to GTX 780, in which case I would understand a somewhat decent price as Nvidia would want to unload these GK110s and this would be the only place they could.
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post #147 of 373
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They get away with murder both AMD and NVIDIA, in my opinion, and early adopters pay through the nose. If it works for both parties so be it.

I'm saying, let rationality take over your impulse since eventually initial prices will fall between $400-500. The consumer should not allow them to get away with it. Usually at that point drivers are better and aftermarket cards with better overclocking and cooling capabilities can be obtained for cheaper. Be smart.

yeah, but that begs the question:
would there be improved drivers, cooling and OCing capabilities if the cards are not selling?
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Let's just say that I'm not holding my breath for voltage control. Nvidia has made it fairly clear that they aren't going to allow it... frown.gif

See, if it weren't for SLI > CFX in most cases, I'd hold out for the HD 8970 just because you can [probably] crank the **** out of it under water. Voltage and clocks. Unfortunately, CF leaves something to be desired when compared to SLI rolleyes.gif
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AMD seems to be a jack of
GNAR GNAR GNAR - I couldn't resist.

If the ROPS stay the same but it will be 3GB they might still use the same pcb but it is less lickely as I figured the Titan LE that showed up missing 2 vram chips compared to a normal Titan would be the GTX780 which now turns out to not be the case.
Point being I dislike reference pcb's but depending if they lasered the die I like them.
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I doubt they can get over 30% more on 28nm (no the 7790 isn't an argument, a huge amount of that perf comes from additional die space and hugely faster memory)
Volt control with a titan:



Not mine but I'm still considering it lol. I just have cheaper cards to ruin before touching my titan tongue.gif

Ohh you just made me cringe. redface.gif
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