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This isn't the first time that a bunch of people decided they wanted to take the lids off their CPUs. Intel could probably sell CPUs without a lid for the same price (or even mark it up to a higher price), and sell them "as-is" with no warranty. It'd probably save them money from people attempting to RMA CPUs they damaged (and some of those RMAs slipping through and getting replaced as well).

It would suck to get a legitimately defective chip that they won't replace, but I would say the odds of getting a defective chip from Intel's billion $ manufacturing facility are a lot lower then getting a good chip damaged from some guy taking a hammer to it in his garage.
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Simply put: it's a lack of demand. Only a small fraction of users actually directly purchase computer parts (let alone buy desktops), and even fewer overclock. Of those that overclock, only some of us have an Ivy Bridge, and of those few, only some will delid their chips.

Considering it can cost hundred's of thousands to change a detail about what chip you're making, there's no way they could earn enough money for it to be worthwhile.
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The Socket A AMD Athlon/Duron and Socket 370 Pentium III/Celeron were sold that way about a decade ago, and they were notorious for shattering if you didn't put the heatsink on very carefully, especially the AMD chips. When the Pentium 4 and then the A64 were introduced, both companies reintroduced the lid over the core, and have made chips that way ever since.
     
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More SKUs (especially a very non-standard chip) means more logistics, customer support, warehousing, inventory, etc. This is especially true since the chip may not be drop-in compatible since there is a 1mm difference in chip height and some OEM coolers may not be tight enough anymore.

Just not worth it to them.



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The Socket A AMD Athlon/Duron and Socket 370 Pentium III/Celeron were sold that way about a decade ago, and they were notorious for shattering if you didn't put the heatsink on very carefully, especially the AMD chips. When the Pentium 4 and then the A64 were introduced, both companies reintroduced the lid over the core, and have made chips that way ever since.
Just to note, embedded and mobile chips generally don't have a lid still. However, these are for OEM usage who have taken responsibility.
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More SKUs (especially a very non-standard chip) means more logistics, customer support, warehousing, inventory, etc. This is especially true since the chip may not be drop-in compatible since there is a 1mm difference in chip height and some OEM coolers may not be tight enough anymore.

Just not worth it to them.
Just to note, embedded and mobile chips generally don't have a lid still. However, these are for OEM usage who have taken responsibility.

Not to mention, OEMs use machines to assemble things. A lot of chips sold to OEMs use ball grid arrays which no consumer would be able to mount properly.
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Not to mention, OEMs use machines to assemble things. A lot of chips sold to OEMs use ball grid arrays which no consumer would be able to mount properly.
I had said "embedded". smile.gif
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I don't see the harm in them offering the Extreme Editions lidless. Imagine a 3960X or a 3970X lidless. That would start to justify the cost of the thing over a 3930K.
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Intel could probably sell CPUs without a lid for the same price (or even mark it up to a higher price), and sell them "as-is" with no warranty.

That would be a risk for a company to take. People would break them en-masse and unable to return them they would scream and whine at any place their voice can be heard. It would lead to the less tech savvy hearing this concentrated wave of moaning and simply assuming Intel are bad and don't offer any decent warranty which in turn mucks up the company name and could harm sales.
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I don't see the harm in them offering the Extreme Editions lidless. Imagine a 3960X or a 3970X lidless. That would start to justify the cost of the thing over a 3930K.

You know, I could see this being done profitably. Maybe even market it with a different brand name or call it something different.

As long as they make it clear this CPU is designed specifically for a certain segment of the market, and not the general market that needs a working PC on a budget it should keep complaints to a minimum. Clearly if you're doing stuff like pulling the lid off your CPU you can afford to lose it, otherwise you'd have to be an idiot to do that to a CPU you can't afford to replace.

I personally wouldn't even try messing with a lidless CPU. You should see how I build computers. I just finished my build and it looks like a massive piece of crap lol (as usual).
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