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I've lost data before. In fact, ALL my drives at once, when my MB's sata controller fragged them all somehow. It was crappy, but I recovered since most data is in the cloud now adays anyways tongue.gif

Honestly, losing an entire 4TB like I mentioned in another post just means I need to redownload it all. Instead of spending an extra $200, I just back up a file list to keep track of what i need to re-download. With a 50/25 FIOS, that is just a few days of time.

All my games are on steam, and most games backup to the steam cloud.

All my personal data (My Documents folder) are backed up onto my 500gb drive, the most crucial of which gets synced to the google drive smile.gif.
If I were in your shoes I would do the same.

I guess that's fine if you're only backing up a few things and/or keep your movies/music/photos in a cloud environment. Are any of you backing up 5+ TB of data? When you start doing a 1-1 mirror of that much AT HOME, not on someone else's' dime, then it gets expensive. I've got 5TB of data on JBOD, that I'm currently trying to pick a solution for, so this thread interests me. I bought 3, 4TB HDDs, with the intention of using RAID 5, but now I am starting to second guess it. I've also thought about picking up a Rocketraid card as well since my MB's raid controller hangs during boot. I think I'm doing something wrong; wrong driver or something, but not sure.

At the end of the day, I've got my 5 year olds entire life documented in photos and video, not to mention quite an extensive DVD library that serves my house, so I need to get this all on a large array and backed up. I've got 3 4TB drives and 2 1.5TB drives to use. What would you do?
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I guess that's fine if you're only backing up a few things and/or keep your movies/music/photos in a cloud environment. Are any of you backing up 5+ TB of data? When you start doing a 1-1 mirror of that much AT HOME, not on someone else's' dime, then it gets expensive. I've got 5TB of data on JBOD, that I'm currently trying to pick a solution for, so this thread interests me. I bought 3, 4TB HDDs, with the intention of using RAID 5, but now I am starting to second guess it. I've also thought about picking up a Rocketraid card as well since my MB's raid controller hangs during boot. I think I'm doing something wrong; wrong driver or something, but not sure.

At the end of the day, I've got my 5 year olds entire life documented in photos and video, not to mention quite an extensive DVD library that serves my house, so I need to get this all on a large array and backed up. I've got 3 4TB drives and 2 1.5TB drives to use. What would you do?
I'm only backing up personal data. The rest of the 6TB (2TB + 4TB + 500MB + games) aren't backed up. Most of it consists of games, tv and movies which can be redownloaded.

In your shoes, I don't know what I'd do. Probably, i would want to leverage google's cloud services, or a similar cloud company. I wouldn't want to deal with the overhead of maintaining that much data myself.... I already deal with that at work tongue.gif

*opens up vCenter with 24 Dell R720s* (768TB)
Edited by Mehdi - 5/15/13 at 2:13pm
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I'm only backing up personal data. The rest of the 6TB (2TB + 4TB + 500MB + games) aren't backed up. Most of it consists of games, tv and movies which can be redownloaded.

In your shoes, I don't know what I'd do. Probably, i would want to leverage google's cloud services, or a similar cloud company. I wouldn't want to deal with the overhead of maintaining that much data myself.... I already deal with that at work tongue.gif

*opens up vCenter with 24 Dell R720s* (768TB)
I appreciate that input. This build is starting to FEEL like work...lol.
post #34 of 41
Just checked Google Cloud storage. .085/GB/month for the first TB, then .076 up to 10TB. That's $750 - 850 per month? Seriously?
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Just checked Google Cloud storage. .085/GB/month for the first TB, then .076 up to 10TB. That's $750 - 850 per month? Seriously?

For that much data, you're better off going with a service like crashplan. http://www.crashplan.com/consumer/crashplan-plus.html
post #36 of 41
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I guess that's fine if you're only backing up a few things and/or keep your movies/music/photos in a cloud environment. Are any of you backing up 5+ TB of data? When you start doing a 1-1 mirror of that much AT HOME, not on someone else's' dime, then it gets expensive. I've got 5TB of data on JBOD, that I'm currently trying to pick a solution for, so this thread interests me. I bought 3, 4TB HDDs, with the intention of using RAID 5, but now I am starting to second guess it. I've also thought about picking up a Rocketraid card as well since my MB's raid controller hangs during boot. I think I'm doing something wrong; wrong driver or something, but not sure.

Lol, I remember spending $1,700 on HDDs alone when I was building my file server. Yep, it does get expensive. tongue.gif My personal data is mirrored across 3 laptops, 4 desktops, a local file server and cloud storage (Dropbox and Microsoft SkyDrive for now). Thankfully, we don't have much by way of family videos so the files still fit on cloud storage. Media is stored on a 12TB unRAID server (1*1.5TB parity, 8*1.5TB data).
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At the end of the day, I've got my 5 year olds entire life documented in photos and video, not to mention quite an extensive DVD library that serves my house, so I need to get this all on a large array and backed up. I've got 3 4TB drives and 2 1.5TB drives to use. What would you do?

If I were you, here's what I'd do:

array 1 (unRAID, SnapRAID, FlexRAID, etc)
4TB: parity
4TB: data (media)
4TB: data (media)
1.5TB: data (personal - family photos, home videos, etc)

external enclosure or installed on another computer
1.5TB: data (personal - family photos, home videos, etc)

As long as you don't lose 3 drives at the same time, it's possible to recover your personal stuff. smile.gif
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I don't know what the future of HDD may hold so I don't know if you should wait or not.

But like you, I have a 1.5TB external HDD where I put all my movies, tv shows and games and I only have 300GB left. I never thought I'd actually be able to fill it up. So I bought another external 4GB HDD for 140. Now I'm losing desk space and have a bunch of cables underneath. Maybe I should have gotten an internal one. @.@

if you dont want wires (the power and usb cables for both externals) pop them out of the case they are in and just put it inside the computer.
your data read/write speeds will skyrocket also.
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For that much data, you're better off going with a service like crashplan. http://www.crashplan.com/consumer/crashplan-plus.html
That's looking very interesting.... thanks!
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Lol, I remember spending $1,700 on HDDs alone when I was building my file server. Yep, it does get expensive. tongue.gif My personal data is mirrored across 3 laptops, 4 desktops, a local file server and cloud storage (Dropbox and Microsoft SkyDrive for now). Thankfully, we don't have much by way of family videos so the files still fit on cloud storage. Media is stored on a 12TB unRAID server (1*1.5TB parity, 8*1.5TB data).
If I were you, here's what I'd do:

array 1 (unRAID, SnapRAID, FlexRAID, etc)
4TB: parity
4TB: data (media)
4TB: data (media)
1.5TB: data (personal - family photos, home videos, etc)

external enclosure or installed on another computer
1.5TB: data (personal - family photos, home videos, etc)

As long as you don't lose 3 drives at the same time, it's possible to recover your personal stuff. smile.gif
I'll do some reading today about unRAID. Quick question though, do you run it as a secondary boot OS or did you dedicate an entire machine just to running unRAID?
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I'll do some reading today about unRAID. Quick question though, do you run it as a secondary boot OS or did you dedicate an entire machine just to running unRAID?

Dedicated PC stored somewhere out of the way where noise won't matter. Given the number of drives, it was somewhat impractical to use it as a desktop. Way too loud particularly when all drives are fired up and running a parity check.

If you want something that can run on top of your regular OS, then FlexRAID or SnapRAID is your best bet. Not sure if there are other options similar to those two.
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