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post #1 of 9
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Looking to know a few things about this newer MSI card!

  1. Does yours coil whine?
  2. Is it a true reference board?
  3. How quiet is the cooler?
  4. Is it voltage locked?

I'm seriously considering it for an EK 7970 water block, and I'm really interested in it- but it CANNOT COIL WHINE!
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post #2 of 9
I have two for my new rig, and currently running one.

I can verify that mine produces sporadic coil whine, but it's barely noticeable. It occurs during extreme computation and last about a half a second at a time. It's not nearly as bad as some of the Gigabyte 7970's I've heard, or XFX for that matter.

Yes, you can use a reference water block - I'm using EK's.

Running Crysis 3 at 1440 the card works really hard, and even when the fans are running at 80% it really isn't too loud. I had a 5970 that was so loud you literally couldn't play games with 5.1 speakers because they would drown out the highs! LOL!

These are solid cards, especially at $400.....
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Do you know of a 7970 that doesn't whine? I was really hoping this one wouldn't redface.gif
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post #4 of 9
I haven't been around each model, so I can't say for sure. What I can say is out of the 3 I've had experience with, my MSI 7970 TF3 OC is the one that whines the LEAST!

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I've heard reducing the clock to 925 eliminates the whine, but I can't confirm this yet. I'll try when I get home from work.
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Originally Posted by XKaan View Post

I haven't been around each model, so I can't say for sure. What I can say is out of the 3 I've had experience with, my MSI 7970 TF3 OC is the one that whines the LEAST!

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I've heard reducing the clock to 925 eliminates the whine, but I can't confirm this yet. I'll try when I get home from work.

The only thing I'm worried about is that my last MSI card whined when it was under any load at all, and it annoyed me beyond belief. Hence why I'm going to water cool it, for silence- also why I don't want any whine.
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post #6 of 9
I've had mine for about 2 weeks and im sending mine in for return in the next day or two.


Does yours coil whine? Yes, mine whines under any load even with vsync on and frame limiter. It is quieter but still audible. At any time in any game, if i go above 80-90+ fps, thats when it gets annoyingly loud.

Is it a true reference board? I'm not a water cooling guy so im not sure, but i believe it was mentioned many times in the large thread about this card that it is reference and will fit waterblocks.

How quiet is the cooler? Anything above 55%, your going to hear. 65% fan speed is when it gets pretty annoying, 80% + sounds like a jet engine. In my honest opinion, the Twin frozr 3 cannot handle this card, yet im not sure because there was another guy who had the card that was running the same volts / speed as i am and his load temps were 10c lower than mine. The card can get up to 79c for me right now overclocked at 1150/1550 @ 1.20 volts. I want to say that from card to card, the TIM application varies so that might be it. I would have reseated and reapplied TIM myself, but MSI has a tamper seal on one of the screws holding the cooler that says "void if broken" or something. I did contact MSI, and they said that we are allowed to take off the cooler without voiding the warranty, but because of the coil whine i was going to return the card anyway so no point in my taking it apart to take the risk that maybe they will tell me to f*** off when i send the card back in for return.

Is it voltage locked? I believe memory voltage is locked, i wasnt able to find a way to alter it. The vcore is adjustable up to 1.3 volts. Whether or not the card actually receives the extra volts is up in the air to me. @ 1.256 volts, afterburner is telling me that the card is running at that voltage. But according to hwinfo64 / GPU-z thats not the case and those 2 programs are reporting it to run around 1.200

edit--- I should also mention that i might be bias towards noise...im really OCD about it. So my hyper sensitivity might make me a bit skewed when talking about these cards.
Edited by illitirit - 5/15/13 at 4:28pm
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The only thing I'm worried about is that my last MSI card whined when it was under any load at all, and it annoyed me beyond belief. Hence why I'm going to water cool it, for silence- also why I don't want any whine.

for watercooling go with the diamond HD 7970. the only problem is diamond's site does not give game coupons. so speak to AMD before you place the order and make sure you can get coupons from them.

https://www.diamondmm.com/product/51-diamond-amd-radeon-hd-7970-pcie-3g-gddr5-video-graphics-card

there is an AMD rep whom you can PM and ask for help.

http://www.overclock.net/u/294166/thracks
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for watercooling go with the diamond HD 7970. the only problem is diamond's site does not give game coupons. so speak to AMD before you place the order and make sure you can get coupons from them.

https://www.diamondmm.com/product/51-diamond-amd-radeon-hd-7970-pcie-3g-gddr5-video-graphics-card

there is an AMD rep whom you can PM and ask for help.

http://www.overclock.net/u/294166/thracks

To be honest, I don't want any whine.. Is that too hard to ask from a video card?
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Pretty much impossible actually. Every card whines, it just depends on your tolerances. Chokes are chokes and they will make noise.
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