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post #31 of 44
From the video it looks like 4A studios was at a crappy LAN party cramped with power and heat outages.
post #32 of 44
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Dev kits and high-end PCs had to be smuggled into Ukraine in backpacks to avoid the sticky hands of “thieving customs officials.”

Jesus, that's so damn true. Hell you can buy a Cop in Ukraine/ Former Soviet Countries for a bottle of Vodka. Hell you could do it with half.
Whenever I send a package with things to my family in Ukraine, Always have to lie in the customs forms, because they will open it and have a mini Christmas.
The working condition that he described is actually pretty much every school, every event, and every office.
Winter's there are unforgettable. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Empr1ze View Post

Highly exaggerated story.

Ever been to Russia? Or Ukraine?

I played hockey there + paintball -- Had my gear stolen twice by "postal" agents. In both cases, we're talking like 10k worth of gear -- Worst part was, saw it for sale on-line the next week and authorities won't do anything about it. -- Customs agents DO steal whatever they can get their hands on...

Beyond that, power going out and the heat dying is very frequent...

Developers will tell you this too -- if they miss their deadlines, they don't get paid...Anything and are often harassed until it's finished...

I wouldn't exactly say it's the "sob story" that they made it out to be but...The infrastructure in both countries makes ours look so advanced we might as well be aliens.

Welcome to mother Russia.
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Ever been to Russia? Or Ukraine?

I played hockey there + paintball -- Had my gear stolen twice by "postal" agents. In both cases, we're talking like 10k worth of gear -- Worst part was, saw it for sale on-line the next week and authorities won't do anything about it. -- Customs agents DO steal whatever they can get their hands on...

Beyond that, power going out and the heat dying is very frequent...

Developers will tell you this too -- if they miss their deadlines, they don't get paid...Anything and are often harassed until it's finished...

I wouldn't exactly say it's the "sob story" that they made it out to be but...The infrastructure in both countries makes ours look so advanced we might as well be aliens.

Welcome to mother Russia.

Well said.
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"They only needed to recreate the atmosphere of the office, into the game. That´s why its so good." Genius. I love those guys though, bless them. x.x
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why did thq hand the game off to ukrainian developers in the first place???

moral of the story, don't attempt to produce a profitable company in ukraine. it really makes you see how corruption can cause massive level poverty and really stifle development by preventing legitimate companies and competition. of course we have issues like this, but they aren't as blatant and unpunished (unless you're talking about banking)
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Ever been to Russia? Or Ukraine?

I played hockey there + paintball -- Had my gear stolen twice by "postal" agents. In both cases, we're talking like 10k worth of gear -- Worst part was, saw it for sale on-line the next week and authorities won't do anything about it. -- Customs agents DO steal whatever they can get their hands on...

Beyond that, power going out and the heat dying is very frequent...

Developers will tell you this too -- if they miss their deadlines, they don't get paid...Anything and are often harassed until it's finished...

I wouldn't exactly say it's the "sob story" that they made it out to be but...The infrastructure in both countries makes ours look so advanced we might as well be aliens.

Welcome to mother Russia.

Pretty much. I really can't help vouch for most of Europe in terms of infrastructure or development.
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why did thq hand the game off to ukrainian developers in the first place???

moral of the story, don't attempt to produce a profitable company in ukraine. it really makes you see how corruption can cause massive level poverty and really stifle development by preventing legitimate companies and competition. of course we have issues like this, but they aren't as blatant and unpunished (unless you're talking about banking)

You're kidding right?

It was developed by 4A Games in Ukraine (Original Creators)

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When 4A needed another dev kit, or high-end PC, or whatever, someone from 4A had to fly to the States and sneak it back to the Ukraine in a backpack

They should have flown the entire dev team to the States, and stayed there.
    
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They should have flown the entire dev team to the States, and stayed there.

Right...Know anyone @ THQ?

I do and this has a snowballs chance in hell of ever actually happening.

Besides that, some of the best design studios are actually overseas...Even in the crappiest conditions, they outperform US studios...

Who's to say not getting paid, period; isn't motivation to work harder? Or the beatings...and I don't mean an Americanized, beat-down, either...I mean a broken body part/day that you're late...

Look at Metro -- Is it worth what you paid?

The vast majority of "you" will say yes...

Like I said, welcome to Mother Russia.
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