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post #11 of 34
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_hd_7950_overclock_guide,3.html


Power Consumption
Let's have a look at how much power draw we measure with this graphics card installed and overclocked.

The methodology: We have a device constantly monitoring the power draw from the PC. We simply stress the GPU, not the processor. The before and after wattage will tell us roughly how much power a graphics card is consuming under load.

Our test system is based on a power hungry Core i7 965 Extreme Quad Core / X58 system. This setup is overclocked to 3.75 GHz. Next to that we have energy saving functions disabled for this motherboard and processor (to ensure consistent benchmark results).

We'll be calculating the GPU power consumption here, not the total PC power consumption.



Measured power consumption default card

System in IDLE = 165W
System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 300W
Difference (GPU load) = 135W
Add average IDLE wattage ~3W
Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 138 Watts
Mind you that the system wattage is measured at the wall socket.

Measured power consumption overclocked at 1020 MHz (no voltage tweaking)

System in IDLE = 165W
System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 309W
Difference (GPU load) = 144W
Add average IDLE wattage ~3W
Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 147 Watts


Measured power consumption overclocked at 1150 MHz (with 1.25 Volts)

System in IDLE = 167W
System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 381W
Difference (GPU load) = 214W
Add average IDLE wattage ~3W
Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 217 Watts

Mind you that the system wattage is measured at the wall socket and the GPU 100% stressed.


You will be fine with a 450 watt rosewill capstone.

modular http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261

non modular http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066


Are you near a microcenter?

I would also buy a SSD if you can fit it in your budget.
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post #12 of 34
I would say the best place to save money would be going for a 7870. That is plenty of graphics card for 1920x1080 gaming. I also agree with Quesoblanco, you don't need a psu over 500w. I'm a diehard seasonic fan myself so I would suggest this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093

(I wouldn't recommend a Rosewill PSU)

Its Semi Modular, but with your set up you'll be using all the permanently attached cables anyway. But Corsair also makes good PSU. I would also look at Antec, They have some seasonic rebrands for less than seasonic will sell them for.

Cheers
post #13 of 34
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darksen View Post

by "set" I don't know if you already bought the parts or not... but in some cases if you go matx or atx format the prices will be lower in the mobo department. Is it a mobility issue or you just like the looks?

and do you live closer to a microcenter? http://slickdeals.net/f/6027254-Micro-Center-B-M-Intel-3570K-processor-back-down-to-169-99-and-40-off-compatible-motherboard

Just the looks, to be honest. I like the idea of a small case, plus I don't have very much room.

I wish I did, closest one to me is in Philadelphia.
post #14 of 34
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesoblanco View Post

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_hd_7950_overclock_guide,3.html


Power Consumption
Let's have a look at how much power draw we measure with this graphics card installed and overclocked.

The methodology: We have a device constantly monitoring the power draw from the PC. We simply stress the GPU, not the processor. The before and after wattage will tell us roughly how much power a graphics card is consuming under load.

Our test system is based on a power hungry Core i7 965 Extreme Quad Core / X58 system. This setup is overclocked to 3.75 GHz. Next to that we have energy saving functions disabled for this motherboard and processor (to ensure consistent benchmark results).

We'll be calculating the GPU power consumption here, not the total PC power consumption.



Measured power consumption default card

System in IDLE = 165W
System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 300W
Difference (GPU load) = 135W
Add average IDLE wattage ~3W
Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 138 Watts
Mind you that the system wattage is measured at the wall socket.

Measured power consumption overclocked at 1020 MHz (no voltage tweaking)

System in IDLE = 165W
System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 309W
Difference (GPU load) = 144W
Add average IDLE wattage ~3W
Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 147 Watts


Measured power consumption overclocked at 1150 MHz (with 1.25 Volts)

System in IDLE = 167W
System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 381W
Difference (GPU load) = 214W
Add average IDLE wattage ~3W
Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 217 Watts

Mind you that the system wattage is measured at the wall socket and the GPU 100% stressed.


You will be fine with a 450 watt rosewill capstone.

modular http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261

non modular http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066


Are you near a microcenter?

I would also buy a SSD if you can fit it in your budget.

Thanks!

Is Rosewill a good brand? I'm not familiar with anything except Corsair. I just don't want something to happen. Don't wanna sound petulant or anything.

I wish I was near a Microcenter, their prices are great.

I was going to substitute the HDD for an SSD, a Samsung 840 128GB, to be exact. The only reason I took it out was because the HDD was cheaper, and I always figured I can add an SSD later. I was thinking about downgrading the 1TB to a 500GB though, I don't think I need 1TB.
post #15 of 34
You could do all corsair of the above you requested. That would be my suggested. You say you don't want to skimp on particular parts, well your PSU would not want to be one of them either. This is what power your entire rig and the parts you don't want to skimp on, so i wouldn't skimp on the PSU, probably the most important part of your PC, because it delivers power to all your expensive hardware. To answer your question though in particular corsair is a very very reliable brand for PSU'S and all parts actually.
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post #16 of 34
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I would say the best place to save money would be going for a 7870. That is plenty of graphics card for 1920x1080 gaming. I also agree with Quesoblanco, you don't need a psu over 500w. I'm a diehard seasonic fan myself so I would suggest this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093

(I wouldn't recommend a Rosewill PSU)

Its Semi Modular, but with your set up you'll be using all the permanently attached cables anyway. But Corsair also makes good PSU. I would also look at Antec, They have some seasonic rebrands for less than seasonic will sell them for.

Cheers

Thanks! I was considering Seasonic, as I hear they're right up there with Corsair (I heard Seasonic PSUs are branded Corsair).

How about this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095

It's only $5 more. I was also thinking about cutting my CPU cooler to a Hyper 212. Seeing how I'll be doing very minimal OCing and it'll cut about $50 off. The only thing though is, that PSU is only $10 cheaper than the Corsair I'm thinking about buying (Rebate).
Edited by AppJak - 5/16/13 at 9:36am
post #17 of 34
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Originally Posted by Jedson3614 View Post

You could do all corsair of the above you requested. That would be my suggested. You say you don't want to skimp on particular parts, well your PSU would not want to be one of them either. This is what power your entire rig and the parts you don't want to skimp on, so i wouldn't skimp on the PSU, probably the most important part of your PC, because it delivers power to all your expensive hardware. To answer your question though in particular corsair is a very very reliable brand for PSU'S and all parts actually.

I'm willing to go lower in W, but I wasn't planning on going to any other brand other than Corsair or Seasonic, based on what I've read. I hear hit and miss stuff from Rosewill and have been told to stay away from Antec.

The only reason I'm a little hesitant to change the PSU is from what I hear, HX is only below AX in terms of quality. It's only $100 and it's 650W. I haven't found a better deal so far.
post #18 of 34
Any seasonic or corsair you get make sure its at least bronze certified, any psu actually to be exact should at least be thing for a decent build, but any corsair or seasonic you get should be fantastic performance and deliver perfect voltage for a long time, i've had my corsair PSU for 2 years now, and it hasn't once dropped a tiny bit of voltage constant 12v rails and constant power to gpu 6 and 8 pin connectors as well as 8 pin cpu connector. it has been flawless. Not to mention the more stable your power is, and the more power available to draw will result in a better overall overclock.
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post #19 of 34
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Thanks.

What do you think about downgrading from the Phanteks to maybe a Hyper 212? Do you think it'd make a big difference cooling wise? I don't mind idling between 35-40, as long as I'm not going over 70 while playing games, I'm fine with it.
post #20 of 34
The 212 is ONE , and I repeat not the only, but is ONE of the better coolers you can get for the price. 212 will outperform most coolers, and is a fantastic purchase, my preference is water though, but on a budget the 212 is probably one of your best choices for a stock replacement.
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