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So they require a womans egg to do the cloning process. I hope they find a way to manufacture a synthetic version as it just seems unfeasible to do large scale this way.
Edited by Aparition - 5/16/13 at 7:37am
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post #22 of 37
I am curious which of these is better. These guys with the cloned embryo or the guys who can take a sample of your dna then 3d print stem cells from it. Which one will win, hmm.
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the guys who can take a sample of your dna then 3d print stem cells from it.

Where is the link for this article? Because, as far as I know, this is impossible. Printers have used stem cells as ink but never created them from your DNA as far as I know.
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What if they are born blind due to a genetic defect? The cloned eye will have the same faults.

no people removing bits of themselves to grow bigger or better bits redface.gif

youve seen those freaky feline people ?
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Where is the link for this article? Because, as far as I know, this is impossible. Printers have used stem cells as ink but never created them from your DNA as far as I know.

Upon rereading the article they don't give the source but imply bone marrow and other sources but the do actually print the stem cells.
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Scientists at the Heriot-Watt University in Scotland have recently proven they can print human embryonic stem cells, a breakthrough which has the potential to revolutionise organ replacement in the coming years.
years.



http://www.humansinvent.com/#!/11430/engineering-3d-printed-stem-cells/
post #26 of 37
I don't think anything to do with embryos will be viable in regards to medical advances. Not for any scientific reasons, but because there are simply too many moral reservations about working with embryos.

The work being done to take normal cells and revert them into stem cells will sidestep the controversy that dogs embryo research and is (I believe) the future.



And for the star wars clones type scenario people raise... seriously? A clone would still need to be brought to term in a womb, and then raised from childhood to adulthood. We don't have the technology to mass produce army clones. It isn't going to happen. A clone would also be different from it's progenitor. Environmental factors would produce a vastly different person. A clone would be it's own individual with all the same rights as any other person.
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post #27 of 37
We are far too many and far too greedy...

Yes, living 200 years sounds cool, yet who gets to live that? Why should you live 200 years while childs die @ 3-4 yo daily?
We rape nature to produce goods at the rate we do already, yet a huge % of the population starves...
Producing cures for all diseases is one thing, getting our population to quadruple virtually in a couple of generations as people start leaving 2-3 times as much is simply insane. Plus potentially boring.

Learn to live a fuller, satisfying life is key.


Just accept it, you will die and that's it. Strive to be a great Man and you will be remembered through generations for your legacy, or hated for your crimes.

Educate people and give power to oppressed women who are used as baby producing machines all their life.
Establish a minimum level of nutrition and education globally + intensives for people to stop reproducing as if the human species is in danger of extinction...we could do with 1/5th the population easily.

Yes, research is AMAZINGLY important. Just don't lose the forest to find a tree. Even if it is the oldest of em all, the forest is more important than a single member.
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We are far too many and far too greedy...

Yes, living 200 years sounds cool, yet who gets to live that? Why should you live 200 years while childs die @ 3-4 yo daily?
We rape nature to produce goods at the rate we do already, yet a huge % of the population starves...
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Learn to live a fuller, satisfying life is key.


Just accept it, you will die and that's it. Strive to be a great Man and you will be remembered through generations for your legacy, or hated for your crimes.

Educate people and give power to oppressed women who are used as baby producing machines all their life.
Establish a minimum level of nutrition and education globally + intensives for people to stop reproducing as if the human species is in danger of extinction...we could do with 1/5th the population easily.

Yes, research is AMAZINGLY important. Just don't lose the forest to find a tree. Even if it is the oldest of em all, the forest is more important than a single member.

Whilst what you say is pretty true and correct.

There must always be winners and losers in life. That's the way nature works. Just look at ecology and study of species interactions as proof. For one species to flourish, another (or several other) species must suffer. Actually, it extends even further than that. For an individual within a population to flourish, individuals from the same population must suffer. Life is about winning and losing.

We will NEVER live in this fantasy world where everyone is equal, to even aspire to that world is moronic because its not the way things work. Creating this "balanced" and "equal" world is in of itself, artificial. Its not how things work on any of the planetary levels. In saying that, I will never tell people who are on the "losing" side to just give up. But pushing for a balanced and equal world is neither possible nor natural.

In order for the people on the losing side to become winners, some of the winners have to become losers. So you will never find that equality that people seem so obsessed with trying to create.
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We are already going to be overpopulated. We don't need clones to make us get there faster
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I am me, and only me, but if they clone me, will I still be me ? biggrin.gif
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