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post #11 of 22
Oh my! That is a VERY dirty and dusty PC.

Turn it off. Get out the vacuum cleaner and goto work.

Remove the fan from the heatsink and put the hose right down on the heatsink.

Take your time, dont get in there and start banging the hose around. Be very careful and take your time and clean that thing up. All that dust buidup is like a warm cozy blanket and its causing your rig to overheat. If you have a crevice tool for your vacuum, or a small nozzel attachment or similar, use that to get in the tight spots. If you have an air compressor, that would be great too. If not, you can buy "canned air".

As for removing that fan. It can be a little tricky. Some were screwed on with 4 screws, some were clipped on and a little harder to get off. If you get flashlight and study it for a minute, you should be able to figure it out.

Honestly, if it was me and I had to work on your PC, I would completely dissasemble the whole thing and clean everything thoroughly. Vacuum cleaner, canned air, lint free rags (white cotton t-shirts make great rags), and Q-tips.

Rubbing alcohol is great for removing stubborn stuck on gummy stuff. Q-tips dipped in alcohol work great on fan blades.

And try really hard to rearrange your cables to allow better airflow in your case.
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the horror!, it's not the worst inside I have seen though.
also on using a vacuum cleaner, I was under the impression that static build up occurred around the plastic nozzle components.

Canned air, is great, while a little pricey, especially since the wife takes great delight in playing with them, I do seriously wonder sometimes smile.gif

There is some great advice on here:

I had never heard of turning the fan the other way up on the stock cooler before, I suppose it's no different from changing the fan orientation on a tower cooler smile.gif

Your case looks like it will take something like a coolermaster tx3, which are really cheap and effective for a stock cooler upgrade, not sure where you are but in the UK they are about £20 ish.

Good luck getting it all sorted out , and hands off my stapler.
    
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post #13 of 22
Flipping the fan works on those phenom coolers because of the thermistor. It causes the thermistor to falsely read a higher temp and so it cranks the fan up to max. I got by that way for a few weeks back when I had a 1045T, then I finally bought a CM 212+.

You see, with that thermistor, if your fan software calls for 100%, it will send 12V to the fan connector, but if the thermistor see's no need for full speed, its going to throttle the fan anyway. And it just causes all kinds of irregularities in the fan speed.

Which, judging by how dirty that heatsink is, the fan has probably been running full blast 24/7 anyway. No matter what the settings. Once it's cleaned up though, the fan should start reading temps correctly and its going to try to throttle the fan against the softwares will.

As for static electricity and vacuum cleaners, I've heard that warning. But I guess I'm hard headed and do it anyway.
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post #14 of 22
by the looks of all that dust you have negative air pressure, you need either more filtered fans blowing air in or a better case.
I would go with Baskt_Case with stripping everything out and cleaning including the inside of the case, that dust is why you have high temps

p.s I use a vacume with the round curtain brush with the bristles it gets in every little gap
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post #15 of 22
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Flipping the fan works on those phenom coolers because of the thermistor. It causes the thermistor to falsely read a higher temp and so it cranks the fan up to max. I got by that way for a few weeks back when I had a 1045T, then I finally bought a CM 212+.

You see, with that thermistor, if your fan software calls for 100%, it will send 12V to the fan connector, but if the thermistor see's no need for full speed, its going to throttle the fan anyway. And it just causes all kinds of irregularities in the fan speed.

Which, judging by how dirty that heatsink is, the fan has probably been running full blast 24/7 anyway. No matter what the settings. I remember way back when there were a bunch of threads with confused people wanting to know why they couldnt control their fan speeds on stock Phenom coolers.

As for static electricity and vacuum cleaners, I've heard that warning. But I guess I'm hard headed and do it anyway.

Good suggestion! thumb.gif  That's something I like to do with computers, too.

    I will also note that with the fan blowing downwards (normal) dust will accumulate on the flat surface of heatsink fins and quickly plug up the heatsink; but if the fan is turned around so that it is drawing air from the CPU heatsink, dust will accumulate much more slowly, and the motherboard will run cooler because all that hot air will no longer be blowing down onto the motherboard.  It is even better if all that hot CPU air can be ducted straight out of the case after flipping the fan around.
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post #16 of 22
Looks like your CPU heatsink might be caked in dust. Stopping the airflow like that, will cause your cpu to overheat. So you need to find a way to clean it out. Which will more than likely involve removing it from your motherboard.

I would recommend you buy an aftermarket cooler though. The Cooler Master 212 Plus is a good choice, with regards price/performance.

Also, you don't need one of those strap yokes. You can either touch a radiator, to discharge any static. Or you could leave the system plugged in, but turned off. Then you just need to touch the case to discharge yourself. Its how I do it, and in over 15 years I have never had a problem doing it this way. Try and avoid wearing man made fibers while you work on your machine though.

Edit:- I really wouldn't chance using a vacuum cleaner on your PC. It can create static electricity. Even though its only a slight chance of doing any damage, why would you take that risk? When there is a completely safe way of cleaning your machine, with compressed air. Cans of compressed air are available everywhere, or if you happen to have access to a compressor then use that.
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post #17 of 22
About ESD: just touch your case and don't work on carpet. If you have to work standing on carpet, don't wear socks. Unless you are really careless, don't worry about ESD. Also, let the computer rest for a few minutes to discharge any extra electricity.
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post #18 of 22
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Thanks so much for all the advice guys! Got it sorted with a simple dust up, and a removal and cleaning of the heatsink (it was absolutely caked inside), now running like a new computer!!! tongue.gif much appreciated, and yeaaaaaaah, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday....
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Thanks so much for all the advice guys! Got it sorted with a simple dust up, and a removal and cleaning of the heatsink (it was absolutely caked inside), now running like a new computer!!! tongue.gif much appreciated, and yeaaaaaaah, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday....

Nice simple fix thumb.gif

Out of curiosity how's the temps now? as you still ideally want to be running 60c or less under 100% load as mentioned in an earlier post.

Investing in an aftermarket cooler will give you the option of overclocking aswell biggrin.gif so worth investing in.
 
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Awesome! Glad to hear you are up and running again.

Dont forget about the heatsink on the graphics card either. If the CPU was looking that way, the GPU cant be far off.
    
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