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Good luck selling the Titans after GTX 780 release, if its true that its 500€ and 15% slower.

There is also the question of whether or not they will use the same Titan cooler or a crappier plastic type cooler to further cut back on costs. The Titan cooler uses a vapor chamber and crap ton of fins. They may further skimp out on the cooler part, which would increase noise and temps as well possibly. Too many unknowns that remain to be seen. Then there is the whole voltage unlock and max clocks aspect as well.
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post #22 of 94
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Good luck selling the Titans after GTX 780 release, if its true that its 500€ and 15% slower.

Well to be fair it was inevitable. I'm sure there are a lot of Titan owners slightly worried about the GTX780's performance. Time will tell....
 
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post #23 of 94
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There is also the question of whether or not they will use the same Titan cooler or a crappier plastic type cooler to further cut back on costs. The Titan cooler uses a vapor chamber and crap ton of fins. They may further skimp out on the cooler part, which would increase noise and temps as well possibly. Too many unknowns that remain to be seen. Then there is the whole voltage unlock and max clocks aspect as well.

It's a pretty sure bet it's the same as the Titan cooler. 3GB of GDDR5 will OC better than the dense 6GB GDDR5 on the Titan, as well... it also reduces stress on the mem controller which means the cores may go higher too. Speculation, of course, based on past models.
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post #24 of 94
Yay, Its using the Titan cooler. Lol the Geforce logo is upside down. tongue.gif
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There is also the question of whether or not they will use the same Titan cooler or a crappier plastic type cooler to further cut back on costs. The Titan cooler uses a vapor chamber and crap ton of fins. They may further skimp out on the cooler part, which would increase noise and temps as well possibly. Too many unknowns that remain to be seen. Then there is the whole voltage unlock and max clocks aspect as well.

Looks to be the same awesome cooler:

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It's a pretty sure bet it's the same as the Titan cooler. 3GB of GDDR5 will OC better than the dense 6GB GDDR5 on the Titan, as well... it also reduces stress on the mem controller which means the cores may go higher too. Speculation, of course, based on past models.

Yup it could go in any direction. Right now we only have rumors that we try to extract expectation rumors on however and I see people throwing around numbers as facts though. What's worse is someone may actually believe them. Who knows how things will actually turn out yet? Just Nvidia and early reviewers really. I am however hoping that the GTX 780 at the very least forces down the prices of used video cards. biggrin.gif
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Looks to be the same awesome cooler:


Hope so. That is a very good stock cooler.
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I've enjoyed Titan for a good couple months. I've gotten my money's worth even if I take a small hit selling it. Even if I only get $800 for it, two 780's would cost me ~$1200, that's a net cost of $400. If I want to SLI Titans, it'll cost me about $1,000. So...2 780's for $400 or 2 Titans for $1,000, at least in my situation. I may go the 780 way...

At least you recognize that you got what you paid for, unlike all the whiny Titan owners complaining about how Titan is a theft and that they feel robbed with NV releasing GTX 780. Existing Titan owners got what they paid for and continue to get what they paid for; an awesome as hell video card that is still the top dog for a single GPU solution. biggrin.gif They act as if GTX 780 somehow diminishes the performance of their Titan.


Yeah I never complained about the price. It cost what it cost, and it's not like the 780 and Titan came out on the same day or anything. Titan has been out for months. And on top of that, it will still be their top dog, regardless of how close the 780 comes to it. There's always a price premium on the flagship, that's nothing new.

I just weighed the options for myself though and comparing 780 SLI vs Titan SLI, with my current situation in mind, makes going with 780's and selling my Titan the more sensible route.

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Well I sold one a couple weeks ago to fund a side project, so, just running one Titan now. Then I planned on getting a second again when the price went down, a little ways down the road. But if the 780 ends up being pretty close to half price, even $600, then it would save me some money for only a small performance hit.

Got Titan just because it was the new guy on the block, not much in the way of an alternative. But since the 780 is also GK110, just with less VRAM (6GB I do not need anyways) and one cluster's less worth of cores, then ~10% less performance for the money I'd save would be worth it.

I've enjoyed Titan for a good couple months. I've gotten my money's worth even if I take a small hit selling it. Even if I only get $800 for it, two 780's would cost me ~$1200, that's a net cost of $400. If I want to SLI Titans, it'll cost me about $1,000. So...2 780's for $400 or 2 Titans for $1,000, at least in my situation. I may go the 780 way...

I understand the financial side of things, it's a no brainer really. But will this be a trend with current Titan owners?

Personally i kinda saw this happening if the GTX780 is very close to Titans performance, the Titan would be an expensive door stop to most since selling one would be even more difficult than they would think. It's only a matter of time before we see benchmarks that may make or break the Titan.

That may be the case, yes. Nvidia may lower the price of Titan once the 780 comes out though. At least that's what I think. They made their money off of it already, but I'm sure they still have some to move. If the 780 really does come within ~10% of Titan, I think a lot of people are going to get some of their money back selling Titans and picking up 780's instead.
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a GTX 780 at USD 550 - 600 would be a very good deal. But it will also put Titan sales under risk. this situation would be worse than the GTX 670 / GTX 680 launch where performance differed by 10% and price increased by 25% wrt GTX 670 . GTX 780 will provide 85 - 90% of Titan performance for 60% price of Titan.
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a GTX 780 at USD 550 - 600 would be a very good deal. But it will also put Titan sales under risk. this situation would be worse than the GTX 670 / GTX 680 launch where performance differed by 10% and price increased by 25% wrt GTX 670 . GTX 780 will provide 85 - 90% of Titan performance for 60% price of Titan.

Which actually leads us to the "intent" behind Titan. I personally think that the Titan was intended purely as a niche product for the performance crown and that the 680 and now the 780 is the actual money maker. Most gamers are not going to buy something like the Titan to begin with. They would be more focused on mid range to lower high end cards. Titans are for people who either wanted the absolute best for x amount of time or for the memory and performance. The real question is, how much would Titan sales be put at risk. Was there a real demand for a $1K card to begin with regardless of how well it performs. I don't know many people who are willing to spend the amount of money to build a fairly nice gaming system on a video card alone.
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