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GTX 770 also using the Titan's cooler?
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post #32 of 94
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a GTX 780 at USD 550 - 600 would be a very good deal. But it will also put Titan sales under risk. this situation would be worse than the GTX 670 / GTX 680 launch where performance differed by 10% and price increased by 25% wrt GTX 670 . GTX 780 will provide 85 - 90% of Titan performance for 60% price of Titan.

If you look at the grand scheme of things, the majority of sales are not coming from Titans, but <$200 video cards.



Now, I wonder what the percentage is for $1000 GPU cards out of that remaining 14%? In that entire pie chart, Titan would prolly be around 1% if that.

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for the 780 to be $499.

480, 580, 680 have all been $499.
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GTX 770 also using the Titan's cooler?


I think they are! biggrin.gif
Edited by Nexo - 5/16/13 at 12:18pm
post #34 of 94
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If you look at the grand scheme of things, the majority of sales are not coming from Titans, but <$200 video cards.



Now, I wonder what the percentage is for $1000 GPU cards out of that remaining 14%? In that entire pie chart, Titan would prolly be around 1% if that.

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for the 780 to be $499.

480, 580, 680 have all been $499.

Exactly. The people that would pay for a top card (Titan) will not really be swayed one way or another. They just want the top dog regardless of price. The vast majority will settle down in the mid range somewhere.
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I think they are! biggrin.gif

That would be nice smile.gif
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I still think 6GB is a bit excessive, no matter what insane surround UHD res you may be running. I doubt anyone even broke 4GB on any game out there. Ah well, chalk it up to future-proofing I guess. Maybe next-gen consoles will bring with them a welcomed increase in graphics/memory-usage and we'll actually need that extra VRAM. Soon enough I'm sure.

Anyways...this is my next card. Sold one Titan to work on a side-project, so, have to update my sig rig. But yeah, thinking about selling my Titan and getting 2 780's.
I hit 4gb in Far Cry 3 Ultra 8xMSAA 5760x1080. A couple guys are already maxing out Titans VRAM in Crysis 3 7680x1600.
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I hit 4gb in Far Cry 3 Ultra 8xMSAA 5760x1080. A couple guys are already maxing out Titans VRAM in Crysis 3 7680x1600.

Games are seemingly using more VRAM nowadays. That is why I am concerned with only having 3GB of VRAM. I would feel much more comfortable with at least 4GB.
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I'd like 4GB too.

6GB is too much for me, hope to see some 780s with a little more vram really soon. Also 3GB is not great for some wanting SLI.

Really wish nvidia rolled out the Titan and the 780/770 a little sooner respectively as by the time 3GB+ 780s come out it'll be too close to 2014 for my liking as the new arch will be close and new prices. I would've been all over the 780 a few months ago now I'm really reluctant to get one in a few months time.

If cuda is poor on the 780 I'll probably leave it, 580 beats the 680 by quite a lot unfortunately. Quite disappointed in AMDs 7970 jump to 28nm, nvidia matching it with gk104 and so on.
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Glad you are thrilled with your Titan. Do you play Skyrim? If so, can you PM me a list of your mods and how much VRAM you are using up? biggrin.gif

I've noticed a few Titan owners that seem bitter at how cheap the 780 looks to be considering how close it is in performance to Titan. They seem to believe this somehow changes who Titan's target consumer base is that it makes either Titan or themselves as Titan owners less special. It's like look, Titan is STILL the same top dog single GPU solution it was advertised as and you got what you paid for, a premium flagship video card that no other single GPU solutions come close to. I see whining about "Oh look how much cheaper it is and it is only 10% slower." It's like umm, who the hell cares? People buying the Titan will still have their reasons of buying it and if you are having buyer's remorse now, that is your freaking fault. Just my opinion.

Don't have skyrim... I intend to get it at some point, but I'm working 10-11 hours a day on a project since december, and I just haven't spent money on games I don't have time to play.

Anyone who purchased titan at 1,000 and didn't think it was $200 overpriced for exclusivity and premium performance was completely fooling themselves. It's still faster than the 780, if you don't think you could use 6gb of memory, sell the titan and get 2 780s.


Lets be honest, the titan was released at the price point and NVidia knew they had the 780 coming. They satisfied the performance demand, took the GPU king title, and put out a product which would not be beat by their next generation of cards. If they released the 780 with 16 or even 15 SMX, titan owners would have a right to be upset, they would have spent more money, for less performance on a bait and switch. To still have the top graphics card for the next 7 months at least, just means they paid a premium for that little bit of extra performance, and a whole lot of extra VRAM. Releasing the good 780s at 600-650 with the right phases will fall exactly in line with the expected MSRP of the titan ($800) before the premium was added. Add in the cost of the extra 3gb of ram and you are perfectly in line for the pricing model. If paying $200 for the exclusivity of the titan, not to mention having it over 3 months ago bothers you, you shouldn't have been looking seriously at the titan in the first place.
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I'd like 4GB too.

6GB is too much for me, hope to see some 780s with a little more vram really soon. Also 3GB is not great for some wanting SLI.

You have to remember that the amount of memory (and ROPs) is almost always (giving myself an out here) directly proportional to buswidth (or vice versa). There is the option for asymmetrical memory as seen on the 660 Ti, but it is rarely used, and so far never on the top of the line cards.

So 4GB would need either a 256 or 512 bit bus. And seeing how 512 is not an option, it would necessitate using the 256 bit bus as well as reducing ROPs from 48 to 32.

So the question becomes which is more critical: memory size or memory bandwidth + ROPs? I'd side with the latter. There's no point in having an extra GB of memory if performance will be impacted by up to ~30%.
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