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Which brand and processor should I go for? I will game at 1280x1024 and don't plan to upgrade anything in the future except maybe GPU.
As of now, I don't have most components. I'll be needing a new GPU, mobo, RAM, PSU and processor. I want to make use of this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1391882/newegg-free-8gb-ddr3-with-select-motherboard-sale-1x8gb-ddr3l-crucial-ballistix-sport

So please help me choose a processor and mobo.
Edited by strangerfromisengard - 5/16/13 at 11:06am
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do you really need 2 threads for basically the same question? processor doesn't really have as much to do with the resolution you will be gaming at vs the gpu.
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do you really need 2 threads for basically the same question? processor doesn't really have as much to do with the resolution you will be gaming at vs the gpu.
I thought my problems were better suited for this section. I apologise if it bothers you.
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I know it's not desirable to give advice without backing it up but I'm going to throw this out there, I think at that price point you would do much better with AMD.

You'll get more than just good gaming performance but plenty power for other tasks.

If it was me, look at those combos and start comparing benchmarks to know where they stand in relation to one another.

I like this list: cpubenchmark.net all CPU's

Click on rank to sort them, then use that search box to find the specific CPU.

Back when I needed an upgrade for less than $150 I used that list to sort through all the used stuff for sale here on OCN and eventually got a Phenom II x3 720, 4GB DDR3 and a fair motherboard for $80! I was extremely pleased going into the sale knowing the performance I was getting at that price point.
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lol no it doesn't bother me, the mods on the other hand rolleyes.gif
To the question though, I am running an AMD FX-8350 at 4GHz most of the time. I game at the same resolution as you are asking about. I am not held back by the cpu at all. I am currently playing Crysis3, Bioshock Infinite, I also play World of Tanks. I am using an MSI twin frozr iii 7950 boost edition as my gpu. I run most games on ultra/high settings with low AA settings at 55-100+ FPS depending on what game and what's going on in game.

I love my AMD rig, it's powerful enough to do everything I do quick enough that I am not waiting on the machine to catch up to me.
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Originally Posted by Baskt_Case View Post

I know it's not desirable to give advice without backing it up but I'm going to throw this out there, I think at that price point you would do much better with AMD.

You'll get more than just good gaming performance but plenty power for other tasks.

If it was me, look at those combos and start comparing benchmarks to know where they stand in relation to one another.

I like this list: cpubenchmark.net all CPU's

Click on rank to sort them, then use that search box to find the specific CPU.

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Thanks! I'll look into it.
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lol no it doesn't bother me, the mods on the other hand rolleyes.gif
To the question though, I am running an AMD FX-8350 at 4GHz most of the time. I game at the same resolution as you are asking about. I am not held back by the cpu at all. I am currently playing Crysis3, Bioshock Infinite, I also play World of Tanks. I am using an MSI twin frozr iii 7950 boost edition as my gpu. I run most games on ultra/high settings with low AA settings at 55-100+ FPS depending on what game and what's going on in game.

I love my AMD rig, it's powerful enough to do everything I do quick enough that I am not waiting on the machine to catch up to me.
See the thing is I don't care for a lot of power. I really don't care for dual/quad cores or multitasking. I only want to be able to play most games, if not all, at 40 or higher FPS. If AMD can give me that at roughly $300 and Intel at roughly $400, I'll go for AMD. So please help me out by choosing a specific processor and mobo. One reason I don't want to go the AMD direction is because the ASRock 990FX with the RAM deal is pretty expensive.
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See the thing is I don't care for a lot of power. I really don't care for dual/quad cores or multitasking. I only want to be able to play most games, if not all, at 40 or higher FPS. If AMD can give me that at roughly $300 and Intel at roughly $400, I'll go for AMD. So please help me out by choosing a specific processor and mobo. One reason I don't want to go the AMD direction is because the ASRock 990FX with the RAM deal is pretty expensive.
while it is fairly expensive you will get acpu and motherboard you won't have to upgrade in a year or so tp play the games then. the future of gaming is going to be multi-threaded, all the next-gen consoles are going to be using amd based systems. games are going to be optimized to run on amd hardware, giving amd hardware an edge in gaming imo. you could chose a lesser priced motherboard, but what's the point if in a year you will have to buy another? also the older phenom II processors are still very viable and the prices on some of them have dropped dramatically lately, especially the phenom II x4 965 BE which is selling for $94. I would however buy an 990 chipset motherboard
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while it is fairly expensive you will get acpu and motherboard you won't have to upgrade in a year or so tp play the games then. the future of gaming is going to be multi-threaded, all the next-gen consoles are going to be using amd based systems. games are going to be optimized to run on amd hardware, giving amd hardware an edge in gaming imo. you could chose a lesser priced motherboard, but what's the point if in a year you will have to buy another? also the older phenom II processors are still very viable and the prices on some of them have dropped dramatically lately, especially the phenom II x4 965 BE which is selling for $94. I would however buy an 990 chipset motherboard
Thanks for the input!
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