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It's not worth the risk though as corporate espionage fines are pretty massive.


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It happens all the time dating back to the 1700s involving a French Jesuit of all ppl. This Jesuit entered China and smuggled out the Chinese methods of porcelain making. There are cases thru the 1800s, 1900s, to present day. Need some younger? How about GM and Volkswagen? One of GM's heads of Opel left for VW and brought with him a handful of ppl including their secrets. GM charged them with espionage, VW settled and agreed to buy $1 BILLION dollars in parts and cash payment of $100m.

Then there's the Gillette vs Bic case. A designer faxed/emailed drawings of Gillettes lastest designs to Bic. This guy spent 27 months in prison.

There's also the Oracle vs Microsoft deal where Larry Ellison hired a detective agency to go after a two research institutes that published pro Mircosoft works, lol.

Then there's the HP spying on itself incident, where they were committed a serious sting operation on their own board members lol.

There's the Hilton vs Starwood, where Hilton hired two execs that stole confidential info from Starwood.

There are a lot of cases of corporate espionage.
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It happens all the time dating back to the 1700s involving a French Jesuit of all ppl. This Jesuit entered China and smuggled out the Chinese methods of porcelain making. There are cases thru the 1800s, 1900s, to present day. Need some younger? How about GM and Volkswagen? One of GM's heads of Opel left for VW and brought with him a handful of ppl including their secrets. GM charged them with espionage, VW settled and agreed to buy $1 BILLION dollars in parts and cash payment of $100m.

Then there's the Gillette vs Bic case. A designer faxed/emailed drawings of Gillettes lastest designs to Bic. This guy spent 27 months in prison.

There's also the Oracle vs Microsoft deal where Larry Ellison hired a detective agency to go after a two research institutes that published pro Mircosoft works, lol.

Then there's the HP spying on itself incident, where they were committed a serious sting operation on their own board members lol.

There's the Hilton vs Starwood, where Hilton hired two execs that stole confidential info from Starwood.

There are a lot of cases of corporate espionage.

That list reminds me of how AUDI got started.
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Seeing as Nvidia is not part of the suit, I can only imagine that theres no evidence pointing any of this to them, in the aspect of them encouraging or plotting to get a hold of those docs. Whether the ex employees showed or gave the docs, and Nvidia saw them, it'd be hard to prove and even harder to reverse the effect of those docs. The true culprits are already being sued in this case ( no pun intended).

To be the lawsuit against Nvidia could be coming. It would make a lot of sense to AMD to sue the ex employers that stole the data and went to Nvidia, and then once they had the employees sweating they offer them a plea deal that if they testify against Nvidia in the potential upcoming lawsuit.

I wouldnt be surprised if Nvidia was paying for the lawyers of the employees to protect themselves against such plea deals and to make sure the employees didn't spill any 'unnecessary' information involving nvidia.

Anyways, innocent until proven guilty.
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I wouldnt be surprised if Nvidia was paying for the lawyers of the employees to protect themselves against such plea deals


That would show that Nvidia have something to hide or protect.
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It happens all the time dating back to the 1700s involving a French Jesuit of all ppl. This Jesuit entered China and smuggled out the Chinese methods of porcelain making. There are cases thru the 1800s, 1900s, to present day. Need some younger? How about GM and Volkswagen? One of GM's heads of Opel left for VW and brought with him a handful of ppl including their secrets. GM charged them with espionage, VW settled and agreed to buy $1 BILLION dollars in parts and cash payment of $100m.

Then there's the Gillette vs Bic case. A designer faxed/emailed drawings of Gillettes lastest designs to Bic. This guy spent 27 months in prison.

There's also the Oracle vs Microsoft deal where Larry Ellison hired a detective agency to go after a two research institutes that published pro Mircosoft works, lol.

Then there's the HP spying on itself incident, where they were committed a serious sting operation on their own board members lol.

There's the Hilton vs Starwood, where Hilton hired two execs that stole confidential info from Starwood.

There are a lot of cases of corporate espionage.

Exactly...We've heard about so many and so many get caught, why would others do it often? Especially when doing so means their main source of revenue would be barred from sale when they were caught.
I should probably have put "Semi-conductor companies likely wouldn't unless they have a bad case of the stupids or are unknowingly doing it" though.
    
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It happens all the time dating back to the 1700s involving a French Jesuit of all ppl. This Jesuit entered China and smuggled out the Chinese methods of porcelain making. There are cases thru the 1800s, 1900s, to present day. Need some younger? How about GM and Volkswagen? One of GM's heads of Opel left for VW and brought with him a handful of ppl including their secrets. GM charged them with espionage, VW settled and agreed to buy $1 BILLION dollars in parts and cash payment of $100m.

Then there's the Gillette vs Bic case. A designer faxed/emailed drawings of Gillettes lastest designs to Bic. This guy spent 27 months in prison.

There's also the Oracle vs Microsoft deal where Larry Ellison hired a detective agency to go after a two research institutes that published pro Mircosoft works, lol.

Then there's the HP spying on itself incident, where they were committed a serious sting operation on their own board members lol.

There's the Hilton vs Starwood, where Hilton hired two execs that stole confidential info from Starwood.

There are a lot of cases of corporate espionage.

Exactly...We've heard about so many and so many get caught, why would others do it often? Especially when doing so means their main source of revenue would be barred from sale when they were caught.
I should probably have put "Semi-conductor companies likely wouldn't unless they have a bad case of the stupids or are unknowingly doing it" though.


Because human nature is flawed and very stupid? Criminals don't become criminals because they think they will get caught. It doesn't matter the industry, corporate espionage knows no industrial bounds. rolleyes.gif
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Exactly...We've heard about so many and so many get caught, why would others do it often? Especially when doing so means their main source of revenue would be barred from sale when they were caught.
I should probably have put "Semi-conductor companies likely wouldn't unless they have a bad case of the stupids or are unknowingly doing it" though.

On the other side of the coin, the amount of people who get away with these crimes is most likely higher than those who get caught. I believe a lot of it has to do with trying to "feel important" or "worth while" at a competitors company. Most of the time, an employee like this has developed a sort of hatred for the current company they work for. They feel under appreciated and under utilized (though what engineer doesn't lol) and want to "stick it to the man". What better way of doing that then working for a direct competitor and leaking confidential information?
     
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I remember this... It happened ages ago....
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I remember this... It happened ages ago....

Yes....ages...as in 5 months ago ages.

Lol yes it is still old news. The only difference is there is an actual injunction against the defendant's now, Instead of just an initial complaint with granted permission to take and hold the defendant's property. I forget then word for the last part haha.
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Yes....ages...as in 5 months ago ages.

Lol yes it is still old news. The only difference is there is an actual injunction against the defendant's now, Instead of just an initial complaint with granted permission to take and hold the defendant's property. I forget then word for the last part haha.

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