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OK, so I'm a bit embarrassed to be asking for build advice like some noob but as I was trying to pick out hardware on NE I realized that I just don't know very much about the budget oriented parts these days. I mean, I know I want to go with an Intel system just because I'd like the CPU performance to be as good as possible and I want to get a discreet GPU. I'm thinking of going with an i3 3220 but really don't know what an appropriate mobo would be. Was thinking about the Asus P8Z77-V LX as it has more than enough features for this build and is only $110. WOuld that still be overkill for a budget build with this CPU or is this OK? I'm probably going to throw something like a GTX 650 in it so what do you guys think. Its a totally different ballgame on the budget side I'm finding out!

Also, am I right in thinking about an Intel system or would I be better served going with an A10 5800 or something? I just am leery about the pure CPU performance...
post #2 of 31
It depends on what he wants to do. For budget gaming I still say that it is better to find an i5 2400 used than it is to buy an i3. With so many games being optimized for more cores, getting a dual core is probably not a great idea.

This mobo is a great budget mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130647 it is small form factor and has 2 PCI 3.0 lanes for sli. It is sort of a mini me version of the maximus v gene.

As for video cards, you can sometimes swing a pretty darn good deal on a AMD 7850 which can OC REALLY well for the price http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77797&vpn=FX-785A-ZNL4&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1079 I have seen some go for as little as 115 and they compete with the GTX 570.

What is your budget by the way?
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Not sure on budget yet and I'm pretty sure it won't need to be a gaming rig. He plays Solitaire, lol. I just want it to be a solid and balanced budget computer that can do a little of everything. Let's say the budget is around $700. I don't need a case or monitor factored in either...
post #4 of 31
Just give him an A10-5800K, a reliable FM2 motherboard, 8GBs of RAM, a 256GB or more SSD and that'll be perfect. thumb.gif
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Not sure on budget yet and I'm pretty sure it won't need to be a gaming rig. He plays Solitaire, lol. I just want it to be a solid and balanced budget computer that can do a little of everything. Let's say the budget is around $700. I don't need a case or monitor factored in either...

In that case go for 8GB of RAM with a decentish board (The MSI looks nice, but I'd prefer Gigabyte personally). Get the best CPU you can really, i mean if you really want a discrete graphics card go for a 7850 which is great value for the money, anything else isn't really worth the premium if he isn't a gamer. Intels HD4000 should be alright for just the basics though, I'd never get anything less then a i5 really for a budget build, but drop back to a i3 3120 or something if you need be. There is no point in getting one that is 200mhz higher etc as it just costs more for such little performance.
 
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Actually, you'd be surprised how powerful an Intel-based system you can get while only spending $700 on hardware. Note that this rig is pure "set and forget", with a non-OC'd i5 CPU, B75 chipset motherboard and a pre-OC'd GPU. That way you should only have to set it up once and not be on call for tweaking things down the road.

The case is negotiable due to taste considerations obviously, but the one I picked is pretty dust-resistant and on sale currently.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($173.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Chaser A31 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $694.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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I would go for A8-5600K, which is identical to 5800K after OC (unlocked multi) and is cheaper.
AFAIK it beats the i3 (A8 OCes, i3 doesn't), also is real Quad, and doesn't have IvyBridge's temperature issues.
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Just give him an A10-5800K, a reliable FM2 motherboard, 8GBs of RAM, a 256GB or more SSD and that'll be perfect. thumb.gif

No.

What you do at this point is get an i3 3225 CPU which has the HD 4000 graphics in it and it draws almost half the power and stick it in a gigabyte Z77 wifi mini ITX mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128567

Then you get this 1TB drive from segate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840 which is low power and high performance and you pair it with this SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233515 . Instead of having a dedicated SSD and risking him not installing the right programs to the SSD, just use the intel smart response on the motherboard to use the SSD as a cache.

For the case, get the bit fenix prodigy. My thought is that if you get the H100 along with this case and take the fans off.....you MIGHT get away with a passive cooler. At 55w of power draw, you very well could get away with that since the heat would radiate up and the pump would keep the water moving through the loop.

Then get a fanless PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182169

Then add this ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231461&IsVirtualParent=1 for a super power efficient and silent build.
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post #9 of 31
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No.

What you do at this point is get an i3 3225 CPU which has the HD 4000 graphics in it and it draws almost half the power and stick it in a gigabyte Z77 wifi mini ITX mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128567

Then you get this 1TB drive from segate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840 which is low power and high performance and you pair it with this SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233515 . Instead of having a dedicated SSD and risking him not installing the right programs to the SSD, just use the intel smart response on the motherboard to use the SSD as a cache.

For the case, get the bit fenix prodigy. My thought is that if you get the H100 along with this case and take the fans off.....you MIGHT get away with a passive cooler. At 55w of power draw, you very well could get away with that since the heat would radiate up and the pump would keep the water moving through the loop.

Then get a fanless PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182169

Then add this ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231461&IsVirtualParent=1 for a super power efficient and silent build.

This,

That and for most people right now single core performance is what matters, not having the extra cores. As far as I'm aware myself the single core performance of the i3 is a lot higher then that of the AMD.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77MX-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ Adorama)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $709.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-17 02:39 EDT-0400)

I think your dad would benefit more from a snappy PC so a SSD is probably a must. I went with intel on this build, but really because you're Dad doesn't do benchmarks, games, video/3d rendering, etc. you could go either an AMD APU, this processor or maybe the new haswell i5 that's coming out.
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