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This,

That and for most people right now single core performance is what matters, not having the extra cores. As far as I'm aware myself the single core performance of the i3 is a lot higher then that of the AMD.

It's not if you OC. After OC, AMD obliterates Intel in this price range. And is cheaper.
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In fact, the A10 has higher PassMark on stock. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
After OC it's not even funny. And the A8-5600K, which is just lower stock clock but same chip, costs 50$ less than the i3
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A10 is better you can even overclock it
    
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It's not if you OC. After OC, AMD obliterates Intel in this price range. And is cheaper.

Yes, but at the same time the OP just wants something to plug in and go. Cheaper on power is a plus too,
Honestly I'm a bit behind with all of these newer AMD chips etc. Maybe the AMD would be better, but generally when you build a computer for someone you run it at stock or with a mild overclock thumb.gif
 
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Yes, but at the same time the OP just wants something to plug in and go. Cheaper on power is a plus too,
Honestly I'm a bit behind with all of these newer AMD chips etc. Maybe the AMD would be better, but generally when you build a computer for someone you run it at stock or with a mild overclock thumb.gif

Good, but then again we already see temps degrading with IvyBridge CPUs due to the TIM they filled the CPU with (SandyBridge is soldered). In my opinion, either wait for next-gen intel, or go AMD.
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Good, but then again we already see temps degrading with IvyBridge CPUs due to the TIM they filled the CPU with (SandyBridge is soldered). In my opinion, either wait for next-gen intel, or go AMD.

Yes, it's always opinionated no matter what you say with anything. Like if I say Audi makes good cars (in general), someone might say that they make overpriced cars with useless features.

The part about the IHS not being soldered is unfortunately a fact (hey it'd be nice if it was just lies) and totally rubbish that Intel actually went with it for retail units..
I have de-lidded mine as you can see: The only thing I can say about it is that most people will run stock and not notice the degradation for a while.
 
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Some of the i5 builds are nice but I think if this is not going to be gamed or used for any specific demanding task you may actually have over-budgeted. If he wants a basic porno browser, you tube streamer and word processor you can knock up an AMD based APU build for a little over $500.

AMD A10-5800K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280

GIGABYTE GA-F2A85XM-HD3 FM2 AMD A85X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128586

G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231550

SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB
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NZXT Source 210
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After all rebates and offers that is $517.93 if he is not going to do anything particularly demanding he will notice no difference between this and a $200 more expensive Intel setup.
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post #18 of 31
+1 for an intel. If he's not going to game at all, you absolutely do not need the better iGPU of AMD. And being that it's summer, I'm sure he'll appreciate the lower TDP.

You might even want to consider an ultra budget $50 pentium or celeron ivy bridge.
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you absolutely do not need the better iGPU of AMD.

How about the better CPU? rolleyes.gif Again, A10 (and A8) beat i3 IB in PassMark on stock.
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How about the better CPU? rolleyes.gif Again, A10 (and A8) beat i3 IB in PassMark on stock.

And it loses the vast majority of metrics found in the Anandtech bench. Put it up against an i5, and it's pathetically inadequate.

Assuming that OP actually likes his FIL, he shouldn't inflict an AMD-based CPU of any type on him.
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