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what kind of increase are we going to see from the haswell vs a 3770k? I mean one is 1155 the other is 1150? is there that much difference? The reason I ask, is this computer I am looking at is just a temp on for me, I will be giving it to the kids anyways later down the road. When RL smooths out I will be building a dream build again something like what is down in sig, a lot of the line over the top type. So is it reallty worth waiting?

From what I've seen in the "leaked" ones it's not, they're actually worse then the Ivy/Sandy gens, but at the same time you might as well wait and see what they have to offer because they could have drastically improved in a certain aspect that we are unaware of. That and the Ivy Bridges should be cheaper when Haswell is released, so you could snag yourself a bargain thumb.gif
 
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post #12 of 26
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what kind of increase are we going to see from the haswell vs a 3770k? I mean one is 1155 the other is 1150? is there that much difference? The reason I ask, is this computer I am looking at is just a temp on for me, I will be giving it to the kids anyways later down the road. When RL smooths out I will be building a dream build again something like what is down in sig, a lot of the line over the top type. So is it reallty worth waiting?


Edit: was also looking at this MB: ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 with this ram G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 . is that a bad temp computer to carry me for about 6 months or so.

clock for clock, maybe 6 - 10% from ivy to haswell.

that is not a bad choice you have there for a temp rig, i would really consider that and down the track will be still a nice rig for the kids smile.gif
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post #13 of 26
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And what about Air vs WC, I was thinking since I would need a new 100 waterblock just getting a Zalman cnps9500 for 45 to cut corners alittle more, how bad will it be to OC it to 4ghz on that? or should i just pony up the extra 50 to get the block? I already have the rad, pump (which might be going out) and tub, etc already in the case.
    
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post #14 of 26
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And what about Air vs WC, I was thinking since I would need a new 100 waterblock just getting a Zalman cnps9500 for 45 to cut corners alittle more, how bad will it be to OC it to 4ghz on that? or should i just pony up the extra 50 to get the block? I already have the rad, pump (which might be going out) and tub, etc already in the case.

that Zalman cnps9500 will be fine for 4.0GHz, even a hyper 212+ would do that nicely. no need to go water unless you really want to put the parts you have to use or sell them.
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post #15 of 26
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On that MB Iit looks like that 2 gtx 580 would go into the 1st and 3rd slot? I hope, because I have my set up that way with a WC bridge that connects them to each other and they have to set in 1st and 3rd PCIEx Slots 1 and 3. And I am just planning on just pulling card and setting them in the board with WC going.
    
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well on the ASUS P8Z77-V LK i assume you mean, the dark blue and the white PCIe slots is what you would use to get x8 x8. not sure how they are numbered but you can see in the pic. i wouldnt use the black one for graphics.
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post #17 of 26
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And would I really see a really difference between the 3570k or 3770k? and if I used the 3570k could I get to 4ghz?

Edit: well on mine vcards I have a 3 sli bridge that is used for a 3 cards, but i am not using the mid slot, I am using the first and last connectors on the sli bridge if that makes sense.
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And would I really see a really difference between the 3570k or 3770k? and if I used the 3570k could I get to 4ghz?

Edit: well on mine vcards I have a 3 sli bridge that is used for a 3 cards, but i am not using the mid slot, I am using the first and last connectors on the sli bridge if that makes sense.

you could easily get either CPU's to 4GHz, maybe even 4.5,4.6 depending on the chip. as to performance difference say in games, people have different thoughts on this but i really think you wouldnt notice it and either chip wont bottleneck your cards.

as to using the first and last, from what i can see the last slot will run at x4, i am not too sure if the first will be x16 or x8
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you could easily get either CPU's to 4GHz, maybe even 4.5,4.6 depending on the chip. as to performance difference say in games, people have different thoughts on this but i really think you wouldnt notice it and either chip wont bottleneck your cards.

as to using the first and last, from what i can see the last slot will run at x4, i am not too sure if the first will be x16 or x8

My two 7950's in BF3 see a benefit from 3.4GHz to 4.4GHz with two 7950's at stock. From my estimate by just the numbers on average I get 5-10fps more in some places. Though 7950's are a bit better then 580's you will probably still see that bottleneck.

The last slot at 4x will run okay, but not the best. If you want that sort of setup you'll want to switch to an i7 3820 which is the direct replacement for the i7 920. (The 3820 is on x79 with 2011 sockets) however, this will add a bit of cost to the system though.
 
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the best solution is to fix your pc:) find out what the problem is and replace the boken parts
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