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Why? All that did for IB was raise temps and lower maximum overclocking potential. I don't expect 14nm to be any better at all.


Actually both(aside from TIM gate) of those were problem with the 3D Tri-gate Transistor(Intel's 45nm &32nm were both 2D HKMG) process being immature & leaky at high voltage & clock on their first implementation, Intel is refining that transistor tech for better performance and by the time Broadwell rolls around it could be mature enough to handle high voltage & clocks.
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"we found that the Core i7 4770K can easily 1.2V voltage stable overclock to 4.5GHz."

Does that mean 5 ghz at 1.3-1.4? because just a bit further "To us the joy, but next higher frequencies challenges, we found that conventional air-cooling environment, this CPU could only stable at 4.6GHz (the voltage is not a problem),"

Does this mean that when a good water cooling system you could get high OC without a problem?
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"we found that the Core i7 4770K can easily 1.2V voltage stable overclock to 4.5GHz."

Does that mean 5 ghz at 1.3-1.4? because just a bit further "To us the joy, but next higher frequencies challenges, we found that conventional air-cooling environment, this CPU could only stable at 4.6GHz (the voltage is not a problem),"

Does this mean that when a good water cooling system you could get high OC without a problem?

I think that you may be reading too deeply into minutia here, you need to consider the signal to noise ratio of the translation.
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I think that you may be reading too deeply into minutia here, you need to consider the signal to noise ratio of the translation.

It seems legit for me
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I realize I'm cherry picking but there's already games where Piledriver is on Intel's behind pretty hard, or even winning.

But my basic point is that this is the second disappointment to come out of Intel in a row, the one before this was just masked behind some marketing tricks and CPU turbo.

I got to hand it to AMD, they make amazing budget processors. Lets not get carried away guys, AMD doing good can only be positive for us consumers.
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It seems legit for me

Well if that makes sense to you then I've got a base I'd like to belong you to.
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I just came across Intel's CPU roadmap that explains everything....

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Awesome!! When you already have architecture that is already pretty damn near perfect in terms of responsiveness, these little tweaks and improvements are what we really want. It certainly beats just throwing on more and more cores/cranking up the clock speed each year to keep the income flowing. What we are seeing here is a company actually improvising.. Architectural improvements and perfecting the individual core itself should always come first before just throwing on two more cores a year. (The more cores the less balanced the unit as a whole becomes) I really support this kind of work from intel..They are actually doing it right. (unlike the video card scene where they just crank up the core clock by 20mhz every year and pile on more and more stream units or cuda cores until video cards eventually reach the size of a small bus)

But yeah just thinking about how freakishly responsive my 3770k is, the thought of the upcoming 4770k being 10% faster without ANY adjustments to the clock speed or anything like that just sounds plain SEXY to me.

People need to get off their high horse and stop saying "yawnn" when they hear about only a 7-10% performance increase... Their response should actually be WOW.. This is impressive for intel to pull off in only a year. Plus Just think about it...AMD is standing there scratching their heads without ANY idea how they could possibly improve upon their chips (adding any more than 8 cores just seems rediculous haha), and AMD since the beggining of desktop TIME has been neck and neck with intel.. For them to throw in the towel really means a lot. (I still hold hope that AMD will eventually pull through again someday) But intel is currently doing something which i thought was impossible..improving on something thats already (in my opinion) perfect. Kudos to intel..

As much as i love intel, I still hope someone else comes out of the woodworks and offers intel some healthy much needed competition. I Would hate to see them dominate completely and no longer see the need for performance improvements.

Look out, boys, we've got an Intel rep.
   
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Get any more posts like this then I am on the look out for a Chinese girlfriend .

Sod it! My name is John doe and I have a big house. Getting on 40 but look 30. You must be .... biggrin.gif
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Got this in my private message - That was quick biggrin.gif

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