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post #121 of 352
Haswell Is Intel's most boring range yet, virtually no (Beneficial to desktop user) improvements over Ivybridge. If they didn't already have the performance lead, Haswell would be considered a complete flop.

Hopefully AMD can bring it with Steamroller and start up some competition again. Intel is to focused on mobile markets and all Haswell is, is an incremental stepping stone to that. They should of skipped Haswell for desktop imho, kept it purely for mobile markets..

Maybe we're witnessing the winding down of the traditional desktop PC..
Edited by Pheonix777z - 5/18/13 at 4:52am
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I'm extremely disappointed. Haswell's only saving grace is overclocking potential and even that looks no different than Ivy. I don't know what to do, I got poorly clocking 2500K that isn't enough for constant 120fps in many multiplayer games. From games that I play GTA IV, BF3 MP and Borderlands 2 4-player co-op are very CPU limited. I guess I will have to buy 4770K and hope it oc's to 5GHz on air at least.

To the selfish Sandy / Ivy owners that say Haswell flopping is a great thing, I say shut up mad.gif
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Since the 2500k, there's been so many sandy/ivy chips I lost interest, and now haswell is adding to them
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Originally Posted by Seid Dark View Post

I'm extremely disappointed. Haswell's only saving grace is overclocking potential and even that looks no different than Ivy. I don't know what to do, I got poorly clocking 2500K that isn't enough for constant 120fps in many multiplayer games. From games that I play GTA IV, BF3 MP and Borderlands 2 4-player co-op are very CPU limited. I guess I will have to buy 4770K and hope it oc's to 5GHz on air at least.

To the selfish Sandy / Ivy owners that say Haswell flopping is a great thing, I say shut up mad.gif

Well, you could always look forward to Steamroller biggrin.gif
post #125 of 352
I am on a i7-950 x58 platform and would like some folk's take on upgrading to a 4770k that I was planning on which would need a new board, ram with a future to be GTX 780.

After reading all these pages I feel disappointed about the 4770k and Intel as it does seem this was a push to get a improved iGPU for Mobiles/Tablets etc. My i7 950 on the other hand still kicks butt on anything I throw at it. I had a GTX 680 HC which was just sold and went back to my original GTX 480s in SLI (on air axesmiley.png). The most I've seen my CPU usage on all cores is around 50-60% with a few spikes when you're tabbing out and stuff etc. I mainly wanted to upgrade to eventually take advantage of the PCI-E 3.0 since I'll be on a 780 soon with more USB 3.0 and more Sata 6 onboard the new MBs. I don't have any SSDs atm other than a small simple cache drive but will eventually be buying a few SSDs once they become normally priced and put them in Raid.

Anyhow, let me know what you guys think.
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Intel is to focused on mobile markets and all Haswell is, is an incremental stepping stone to that. They should of skipped Haswell for desktop imho, kept it purely for mobile markets..

Maybe we're witnessing the winding down of the traditional desktop PC..

I totally agree with you. You know its funny, I look at Tablets/Mobiles to PCs as I do consoles to Gaming PCs. Markets change (everyone goes where the moneys at) and the gates of hell open upon us. Slowly but surely I have a feeling we will have powerful like "desktops" soon in the palm of our hands. I still love the whole desktop Tower concept and wished that would never go away but believe it will. Than I won't know what to do in the future as I like to build PCs and sometimes fix them depending the mood I am in doh.gif and I know that all will surely change. I am almost feel that we will have no choice but to get into software. The way I see it eventually people won't need builders because all they'll have to do is go buy the soldered cpu, ram, gpu, ssd tablet like pc and than upgrade it a year later like people are doing with iphones. I think Apple already does this on a macbook if I recall correctly. Sorry for the bickering but this is what I feel is happening as we speak and I think this is purposely done for the change that is coming our way. (Intel) We'll be seeing the way computers once were and saying good bye to the good ole socket and hello to a soldered board which won't allow you to upgrade till you upgrade the whole dam thing aka buying a whole new product. cryingsmiley.gif
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post #126 of 352
I for one like the Haswell "Philosophy"



Where using less power became a key factor. And one of the things Intel did was to lower the most energy efficient P-State – was 1600 MHz for desktop CPUs and is now 800 MHz. The new lower C-States are also welcome as both features will help me to reduce the energy bill, which skyrocketed over the last couple of years. Forcing me to think green and work on reducing my carbon footprint.

p.s. I have six configurations running 24/7 so every little bit helps.
post #127 of 352
I wonder how will the future games turn out to be. If the vast majority of them support more than four cores, then the i5s and potentially the i7s won't have as much as an advantage over AMD's offerings compared to the Sandy/Ivy Bridge era.
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Seems like everyone forgot about AVX2...

I know it's not relevant to most current software, but what about the programs that are able to take advantage of it? Intel claims that it should have something like a 2x improvement over AVX.
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Looking at the roadmap, if "Q2" is June, does that mean no 4930K (Q3) till December? mad.gif

IB-E should be coming in September.
 
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I still refuse to believe that's the actual box, the design just doesn't make any sense wth.gif

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