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Oh I get it, didn't test enough Gaming Evolved titles for you lot huh?

Crysis 3

http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance/page6.html

Bioshock

http://www.techspot.com/review/655-bioshock-infinite-performance/page5.html

Far Cry 3

http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performance/page6.html

BF3

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-13.html


I'd search for more but I can't be bothered if I'm honest. The thread is being seriously derailed by a militant few from the 4770 discussion it's supposed to be about. I'm sure you'll find an issue with with the test results provided by Google too.

I'm off, have a nice day smile.gif

I checked the above and going by what I saw you're right . But look at the fps - not much difference 5 - 6 fps redface.gif And if games are going to be more cored/ threaded then the Amd clan may make a bigger dent. And I really hope they do. = price war is what I want, not a flame war thumb.gif
post #182 of 352
"As for the SB to IB jump, you guys are looking at it all wrong. It was just as disappointing, but Intel could cover it up with better working turbo while releasing both chips at the same advertised speeds. So, people took "base of 3.4ghz and turbo to 3.8ghz" on 2600k and 3770k to mean they both run at the same speeds. But 3770 spends more time closer to 3.8ghz than 2600k does, and if 3770k can run at turbo speed and 2600k is base, that's a 10% clockspeed difference, all while both are advertised as having the same clock speeds.

[H] did 2600k vs 3770k at 4ghz with turbo disabled, and it was a lot closer: "

Doesn`t it matter for you that Ivy has a better turbocore than Sandy? This make the performance of the Cpu better with that 10%. Maybe 99% of the planet don`t do overclocking. biggrin.gif
post #183 of 352
I'm going to be really disappointed if i7-2600k prices only drop $20 to $305
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I'm going to be really disappointed if i7-2600k prices only drop $20 to $305

I can assure you that you will be beyond disappointed, as it won't drop so much as disappear from retail.
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"The step from Ivy to Haswell makes one thing clear to me for the tower I want to build this fall/winter... If I go Intel, it'll be an IB and likely a 3770K. But if Steamroller proves to be a legit jump closer to Intel performance, especially in single-threaded task performance and memory controls, then it'll be a much cheaper to upgrade my current tower and stick with AMD, and I will."

If AMD Steamroller will show about 30% IPC improvment they would charge it much more than for Piledriver, as price, much closer to Haswell than Piledriver is to Ivy.
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I for one like the Haswell "Philosophy"



Where using less power became a key factor.

p.s. I have six configurations running 24/7 so every little bit helps.

Well, lower energy states will not help you when they would do actual work, because they would pump up voltage and you'd have the samething as with Kepler. I use about 60 W on an efficient and fast setting, and I can limit W to about 90-120 for full speed when I disable boost and finetune everything.

Boost merely tries to keep the card in the upper part of power curve, with disastrous results for consumption.

Sun Microsystems actually talked about work per picoJoule several years ago. Companies are talking about power savings, then they would forged about efficiency per dollar and disappear overnight.
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"The step from Ivy to Haswell makes one thing clear to me for the tower I want to build this fall/winter... If I go Intel, it'll be an IB and likely a 3770K. But if Steamroller proves to be a legit jump closer to Intel performance, especially in single-threaded task performance and memory controls, then it'll be a much cheaper to upgrade my current tower and stick with AMD, and I will."

If AMD Steamroller will show about 30% IPC improvment they would charge it much more than for Piledriver, as price, much closer to Haswell than Piledriver is to Ivy.

Thats why im still waiting for StemRoller... again intel guys why all the hype with this haswell CPU?
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Thats why im still waiting for StemRoller... again intel guys why all the hype with this haswell CPU?

we regret it now, intel has forsaken us
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Why? All that did for IB was raise temps and lower maximum overclocking potential. I don't expect 14nm to be any better at all.
It's not going to matter as much as games move towards multiple cores. However, this is the real problem:



i realize I'm cherry picking but there's already games where Piledriver is on Intel's behind pretty hard, or even winning. Haslel isn't enough to put them far ahead, and AMD has a ton of low hanging fruit. Meaning that, well, if AMD sees 10% increase with Steamroller, we're all probably going to be disappointed because we're expecting more. AMD is going to have not only Steamroller, but it'll just compete with a 14nm Haslel with a few tweaks (broadlel).
Wow, do you work for Intel? Are they sicking the astro-turfing PR people on this already? I was going to say I'm impressed but this is pretty dumb, specially considering Intel has no problem "just throwing on two more cores" on their server lines.

As for the SB to IB jump, you guys are looking at it all wrong. It was just as disappointing, but Intel could cover it up with better working turbo while releasing both chips at the same advertised speeds. So, people took "base of 3.4ghz and turbo to 3.8ghz" on 2600k and 3770k to mean they both run at the same speeds. But 3770 spends more time closer to 3.8ghz than 2600k does, and if 3770k can run at turbo speed and 2600k is base, that's a 10% clockspeed difference, all while both are advertised as having the same clock speeds.

[H] did 2600k vs 3770k at 4ghz with turbo disabled, and it was a lot closer:



The whole review is basically a bunch of 0% to 5% gains, with an occasional outlier. So it's not really anywhere near 10% IPC. Maybe 10% with turbo enabled on both units and IPC, but if both are overclocked and you're assuming 2600k @ 4.7ghz = 3770k @ 4.5ghz, you're a little off, it's really more like 4.6ghz 2600k = 4.5ghz 3770k.

But my basic point is that this is the second disappointment to come out of Intel in a row, the one before this was just masked behind some marketing tricks and CPU turbo.

Crysis 3 With Patch 1.3



http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Crysis-3-PC-235317/Tests/Crysis-3-CPU-Test-1068140/
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well we can always go 2011 rolleyes.gif

Right. I'll just watch you sink $558 into a hexacore i7 and an equivalent amount of money into a mobo, and get myself a Kaveri APU and sink the rest of the money into mutual funds, which will NOT decrease in value over time unlike almost all computer hardware (except for the Voodoo 5 GPUs and etc).
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