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What the heck?


Because WoW sucks and is CPU bound mostly (like most MMOs with crap graphics).
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Because WoW sucks and is CPU bound mostly (like most MMOs with crap graphics).

Regardless, should the newer 4770K really take that much of a butt-woopin' from its older sibling?
   
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From now on, when you buy mainstream Intel CPUs, don't forget to buy a hammer and a vice. (Newegg will start selling some) tongue.gif

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Jeez, they expected us to buy new motherboards for this?

This.

I'm disappointed. Good thing I didn't decide to wait when I was buying this 3770k.
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Awesome!! When you already have architecture that is already pretty damn near perfect in terms of responsiveness, these little tweaks and improvements are what we really want. It certainly beats just throwing on more and more cores/cranking up the clock speed each year to keep the income flowing. What we are seeing here is a company actually improvising.. Architectural improvements and perfecting the individual core itself should always come first before just throwing on two more cores a year. (The more cores the less balanced the unit as a whole becomes) I really support this kind of work from intel..They are actually doing it right. (unlike the video card scene where they just crank up the core clock by 20mhz every year and pile on more and more stream units or cuda cores until video cards eventually reach the size of a small bus)

But yeah just thinking about how freakishly responsive my 3770k is, the thought of the upcoming 4770k being 10% faster without ANY adjustments to the clock speed or anything like that just sounds plain SEXY to me.

People need to get off their high horse and stop saying "yawnn" when they hear about only a 7-10% performance increase... Their response should actually be WOW.. This is impressive for intel to pull off in only a year. Plus Just think about it...AMD is standing there scratching their heads without ANY idea how they could possibly improve upon their chips (adding any more than 8 cores just seems rediculous haha), and AMD since the beggining of desktop TIME has been neck and neck with intel.. For them to throw in the towel really means a lot. (I still hold hope that AMD will eventually pull through again someday) But intel is currently doing something which i thought was impossible..improving on something thats already (in my opinion) perfect. Kudos to intel..

As much as i love intel, I still hope someone else comes out of the woodworks and offers intel some healthy much needed competition. I Would hate to see them dominate completely and no longer see the need for performance improvements.
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From now on, when you buy mainstream Intel CPUs, don't forget to buy a hammer and a vice.

Should come packaged with the CPU, so we can throw them out like the stock cooler. rolleyes.gif
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Guess I'll wait until Skylake and DDR4. Hopefully Intel will release a mainstream hexa-core by then.
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Awesome!! When you already have architecture that is already pretty damn near perfect in terms of responsiveness, these little tweaks and improvements are what we really want. It certainly beats just throwing on more and more cores/cranking up the clock speed each year to keep the income flowing. What we are seeing here is a company actually improvising.. Architectural improvements and perfecting the individual core itself should always come first before just throwing on two more cores a year. (The more cores the less balanced the unit as a whole becomes) I really support this kind of work from intel..They are actually doing it right. (unlike the video card scene where they just crank up the core clock by 20mhz every year and pile on more and more stream units or cuda cores until video cards eventually reach the size of a small bus)

But yeah just thinking about how freakishly responsive my 3770k is, the thought of the upcoming 4770k being 10% faster without ANY adjustments to the clock speed or anything like that just sounds plain SEXY to me.

People need to get off their high horse and stop saying "yawnn" when they hear about only a 7-10% performance increase... Their response should actually be WOW.. This is impressive for intel to pull off in only a year. Plus Just think about it...AMD is standing there scratching their heads without ANY idea how they could possibly improve upon their chips (adding any more than 8 cores just seems rediculous haha), and AMD since the beggining of desktop TIME has been neck and neck with intel.. For them to throw in the towel really means a lot. (I still hold hope that AMD will eventually pull through again someday) But intel is currently doing something which i thought was impossible..improving on something thats already (in my opinion) perfect. Kudos to intel..

As much as i love intel, I still hope someone else comes out of the woodworks and offers intel some healthy much needed competition. I Would hate to see them dominate completely and no longer see the need for performance improvements.
Are you trolling?

What imaginary 10% performance increase do you see? The results are showing an average of ~2% increase and even negative improvement on some benchmarks. Also, haswell temps are higher than ivy bridge. If intel really care aobut "perfecting" their chips they'd use some damn solder instead of throwing cheap TIM on the IHS. People aren't "saying yawnn" because their on a high horse, it's because there are actual literally no gains on haswell.
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Wow, so how many years of engineering did Intel just waste on something that performs the same as the last generation?

They should have just rebadged Ivy chips and saved a few billion.
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THis is amd's big chance. Steamroller comes out with 10 cores and the 4770K is in trouble

^ This. Currently, my main machine is the decent i5 3570K rig listed below. But for shts and giggles, I upgraded my HTPC to a AM3+ mobo and FX6300 Vish. I gotta say that the 6-core Vish was surprisingly snappy and made me question my 3570K purchase.

AMD has a HUGE window of opportunity now. If they really make Steamroller lethal and bump the core count plus single thread performance, they will instantly change the market; as Haswell looks more and more like a soft target.
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