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Hello everyone,

I was in the process of sleeving and extending some cables, when I came across a 16 awg cable that is coated with silicon and is extremely flexible, this cable is used in modeling planes for radio control.

My question is, this cable is full of very thin wires inside but the original PSU cables are fewer but thicker wires, if I use the very thin inside wires cable would I have a problem with amperage, voltages or heat or something when using it for the GPUs or any other components while at full load?

Modeling cable




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Does anybody know?
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post #3 of 13
Never run smaller wire than what it has stock.

Even if you run say... three runs of the thin stuff per single wire on the PSU, if you lose even one of those connections you stand a very high risk of overheating, melting, and starting a fire.
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Never run smaller wire than what it has stock.

Even if you run say... three runs of the thin stuff per single wire on the PSU, if you lose even one of those connections you stand a very high risk of overheating, melting, and starting a fire.

Cheers,

The thing is it is not smaller than the original, it is only that the inside of the cable has many more inner wires than the original but they are much thinner, both are AWG 16.

Diference in both cables are also that one has a 200C temp on it and original has 90C on it.
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There should be specifications stating what sort of amperage the cable is rated for.

For DC, multiple thin conductors should not be a problem unless total cross-sectional area is also reduced. For AC (not relevant to your use) multiple thin conductors are often better, because of the skin effect*.

I would be very surprised if this cable was not sufficient for PSU use.

* not applicable to most PSU wires because they function as a single conductor.
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Yes I dont have a clue about the amperage of the cable, it is not written on it. However, the cross-sectional area is the same size of the original psu cable.
I will find what amperage it has, whats the standard amperage for PSU cables?

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Originally Posted by victor.js View Post

Yes I dont have a clue about the amperage of the cable, it is not written on it. However, the cross-sectional area is the same size of the original psu cable.
I will find what amperage it has, whats the standard amperage for PSU cables?

Cheers.

16 AWG aluminum cable (the same as 18 AWG copper) is usually rated for ~14A at 90C.

Same effective gauge with better insulation means the cable can carry more current safely, and should have similar resistance over the same length. Unless you can find information to the contrary, I'd expect the this is the case with your cable.

If you have a decent multimeter, you could always measure the resistance yourself to be sure.
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Cheers,

The thing is it is not smaller than the original, it is only that the inside of the cable has many more inner wires than the original but they are much thinner, both are AWG 16.

Diference in both cables are also that one has a 200C temp on it and original has 90C on it.
It doesn't matter how big the cable is, the inner wires are thinner, so you can't use them. They simply don't have the current handling capacity.

And that temp is just a maximum safe operating environment temperature, stating that the cable won't melt and fail at temps lower than rated. Do you plan on running this cable (with all the wires) for EACH wire on the PSU? Or do you intend to replace the bundle of psu wires with one run of this stuff?

You can run it for each wire, but I would not replace the full bundle with just a few runs of this stuff.


The simple rule is that you cannot run a smaller wire than what you are replacing, unless you know the current you will be running through it and the original was oversized to begin with.
Edited by Masta Squidge - 5/18/13 at 9:44am
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It doesn't matter how big the cable is, the inner wires are thinner, so you can't use them. They simply don't have the current handling capacity.

This is nonsense.

The wires are all stranded together, and will function as a single conductor.

Unless the cable is severely damaged (which is less likely with a more flexible, higher strand, cable) it will function the same, electrically as one with fewer conductors, of the same equivalent gauge.
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The simple rule is that you cannot run a smaller wire than what you are replacing

He's not.

They are the same equivalent gauge (or should be, if labeled correctly).
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They are only "stranded together" if they are not insulated.

You can run multiple runs without trouble, as long as you never damage any of the connections at either end. If you do, then you have less cross sectional area and resistance goes up. If he is at the limit to begin with, then you risk overheating the remaining strands. That is simply a matter of safety.

If his PSU wires are indeed the same gauge, then he probably could get away with it, 16awg is very thin, much thinner than the stuff used in my PSU... I wouldn't use it, plain and simple.
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