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FRAPS doesn't measure frames at the end of the pipe-line.

But even if those consecutive frame latencies are indeed at the end (what we see) we would hardly notice them since they are 4-5ms. Maybe in high-contrast scenes

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this

Frame time variance =/= frame time.

Higher variance means that you need a lower average frame time to match the smoothness of the setup with lower variance.
 
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titan drivers are the reason why i won't buy one


i guess 780x2 beats titan in every way possible
Right, cuz the 600 series drivers didnt suck at launch. And the 500 series were perfect. And so were the 400 series drivers.
rolleyes.gif The Titan has been out for what? 3 months? The drivers will improve vastly down the line, they always do. Now when you realize their next top shelf GPU is the same chip...

And of course a dual 780 sli setup will beat a titan in "every way"... Right until you max out the vram at 3GB. It will still likely be faster than a single Titan, but you are still talking about 12-1300 in GPU. It better be faster.
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Frame time variance =/= frame time.
who said they are the same? tongue.gifsmile.gif
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Higher variance means that you need a lower average frame time to match the smoothness of the setup with lower variance.

depends how much lower. If you have variation between, lets say, 14ms and 18ms, it is much better then constant 22ms for example. But is it better then constant 18ms? Probably.
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Right, cuz the 600 series drivers didnt suck at launch. And the 500 series were perfect. And so were the 400 series drivers.
rolleyes.gif The Titan has been out for what? 3 months? The drivers will improve vastly down the line, they always do. Now when you realize their next top shelf GPU is the same chip...

And of course a dual 780 sli setup will beat a titan in "every way"... Right until you max out the vram at 3GB. It will still likely be faster than a single Titan, but you are still talking about 12-1300 in GPU. It better be faster.
Not really, Titan is basically running the same architecture as the 600 series it's just a bigger chip. And the 600 series is just running a modified architecture of the 400 and 500 series. When the GTX480 came out it had the same driver issues the HD7970 had in that it was only a little faster then the top competing chip at the time. The 480 was only alittle faster then the HD5870 when it released but a year later it utterly destroyed it, 7970 was only alittle faster then the GTX580 when it released but now it's in a league of it's own.

The GTX580 and GTX680 ran very well on release because Nvidia was used to working with the architecture. That's why the GTX680 was faster than the 7970 during the first half of 2012. I guess what i'm trying to say is that the titan won't get any miracle boosts in performance and that's it's already running pretty much almost as well as it ever will.
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Not really, Titan is basically running the same architecture as the 600 series it's just a bigger chip.
Wrong.

Entirely different dude. Not even in the same family.
I take that back. Same family, still wildly different chips.

EDIT 2: The differences come in the additional features the 110 offers, which likely haven't been totally fleshed out in the drivers. The GK110s do things the 104s dont.
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The GK110s do things the 104s dont.

Like cost a small fortune thumb.gif
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Wrong.

Entirely different dude. Not even in the same family.
I take that back. Same family, still wildly different chips.

EDIT 2: The differences come in the additional features the 110 offers, which likely haven't been totally fleshed out in the drivers. The GK110s do things the 104s dont.
It's still Kepler (well "Big" kepler) and the only thing they changed was allow more compute performance but unless you actually use those special applications then you won't see any additional benefit in drivers for games for it and it will get the same gains the 600s and 700s will which as you've seen since the 680 launched are minimal.
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Like cost a small fortune thumb.gif
And somehow still manages to be a decent value, aside from the fact that nvidia originally planned to sell them at half the cost and call them the 680. But if people are going to be butthurt about that, they should just stop buying things in a capitalist society.

I for one am happy with the cost and performance, and it has nothing to do with the fact that nvidia said "zomg bestest evar" on the box.
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It's still Kepler (well "Big" kepler) and the only thing they changed was allow more compute performance but unless you actually use those special applications then you won't see any additional benefit in drivers for games for it and it will get the same gains the 600s and 700s will which as you've seen since the 680 launched are minimal.
Fair enough.

But even with "crap drivers" It is still a beast of a card. If anything, the majority of problems with it are bios related, and even then only when overclocking the things.
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Grats for nvidia. Though im deeply disturbed if this is true. Just shows that people are willing to spend a fortune on gpus. Obviously consumers here are the losers. Nvidia will get away with price gouging and no one will care.
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