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Methinks he isn't one of the consumers losing, if he had a Titan he wouldn't be crying about how bad of a deal it is.
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Again I point you to any and all Apple products... and basically all Android products. And pretty much every gaming rig that you purchase pre-built.
For most its ignorance, but for enthusiasts like us we can't use ignorance as an excuse. As an enthusiasts I get hardware for the best price/performance for the resolution I play and max what the card can do. If there are problems I can use my skills to mitigate the problems that arrive.
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Me think exactly the same about some.
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For most its ignorance, but for enthusiasts like us we can't use ignorance as an excuse. As an enthusiasts I get hardware for the best price/performance for the resolution I play and max what the card can do. If there are problems I can use my skills to mitigate the problems that arrive.
Not all of us care about price/performance. Some of us just want the performance and don't give a damn about price.

If we did, nobody would buy the 690 or the Titan.
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Was there sarcasm in that?? I cannot tell... GPUs have been CPU limited for quite some time. Years, actually, because of programming. If one does not believe me, then upgrade your graphics card and and watch an increase. Then use the same graphics card on an older dual core system and then upgrade to a newer quad core system. The increase is substantial. The increase is noticeable even among 2/4/6/8 cores of lately.
What are you trying to say here? Upgrade your video card and see an increase in performance, downgrade your CPU on an old dual core system and you will see a decrease, then upgrade again to see an increase?
Upgrading your graphics card produces significant performance increases when you are not CPU bottlenecked. Downgrading said CPU to a point where you are bottlenecked will indeed make you bottlenecked, obviously. This is not a new discovery.
Your assessment of the obvious, however, doesn't apply to the context in which he was speaking. Most people running even an old quad-core Nehalem will be able to run high-end multi-GPU setups without being bottlenecked by their processor. There are some architectural improvements from Nehalem to Ivy that improve GPU performance, but that's not to be confused with being "CPU limited." Ivy will help squeeze a few more frames out of one card over Nehalem, the same way it'll help squeeze a few more frames out of three.
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Methinks he isn't one of the consumers losing, if he had a Titan he wouldn't be crying about how bad of a deal it is.
I would never buy a titan. I'm going to get a 2nd 7950. They are faster and cheaper than a titan and I have been dealing with and mitigating frame variances or just dealing with it for years. As an enthusiast this what I do to save the most and get the most.
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Here's what I don't get though. A question for the people who say the Titan is just bad for consumers:

What would you think would have been the reasonable solution to this situation?

Basically Nvidia had 3 options when it came to using GK110 in a geforce card:

  • Not release it at all
  • Release the units they have at a high price selling all of them to people who buy them
  • Releasing the units they have at a low price, selling all of them, and forcing their product stack along with AMD's to drastically lower in prices, cutting the main profits for either company


What should they have done with GK110? How do you suggest they release the thing without cutting their primary market ($150-400 GPUs)? Would it have been preferable for GK110 to underperform so it couldn't have been priced as high? If so, why?
 
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Methinks he isn't one of the consumers losing, if he had a Titan he wouldn't be crying about how bad of a deal it is.

Words a wise man had just said
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Not all of us care about price/performance. Some of us just want the performance and don't give a damn about price.

If we did, nobody would buy the 690 or the Titan. So you don't have a Titan? kbai.
....and now we come full circle. This is why nvidia will charge what they charge and consumers will lose.
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Nvidia is putting out the GTX 780 for the Titan price bashers, so that they can feel better about themselves paying ONLY $700.00-$800.00 for Lil Titan that they will claim is an actual Titan for less,.......wink.gif
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