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Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post

If the Titan was 850$ or less, I would have four (yes 4) in my rig. Hope you understand that. Instead, I want to wait for Maswell or Volcanic Island.

People wanting a Titan but seing the high prices, will turn to AMD options (HD 7970). But thanks to Nvidia marketing and PR with the frame latency pointing out. Now everyone is over-exageratting this and all people get Nvidia.

So Nvidia knowing that nobody wants AMD now, spike their prices up.

And everyone , especially fanboys, are getting Titan.

Do you see the tactic? Lets talk about EXAGERATED frame latency issue (january) , then release the Titan at an ENOURMOUS price and lets bait everyone. (February)

Frame latency issues were brought up before the 7970 launched. They've been quite a hot topic ever since the Sept 2011 article from TR. It's not a new thing. And even if it was, it's not some small issue blown up for the sake of marketing when you have some of the best and most respected reviewers explaining the issue and using the new methods for performance measurements. The fact is that frame times actually describe performance much more accurately than fps does. You can directly calculate fps from frame times if you want. It's included in the info, same can't be said of frame times showing from fps.

And if the $3400 vs. $4000 really made the difference to you then I don't really know what to say. $850 is still extremely high, it's up there with the 8800 ultra, outshadowed by the 6800 ultra 512MB. That would have made no practical difference. At those price ranges most users would still have noted that the card would have been 2x as expensive as the 7970. Everything would still be the same. $850 or $1000, both in a completely different category compared to other single GPUs. Both pretty much the same thing, the arguments would still have been the same. That's still more than part of the option 2 in my question. You personally taking a stance due to that price difference isn't important here.

Titan is a very simple product. The best single GPU for $1000. You don't need to be fooled to buy one.
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But what if AMD come up with a card that is faster than the Titan? What would they ask for it? More that 1k, be sure of it. I don't see how the market will stabilize with the Titan around. Sure, some ppl will say they don't care, they will buy the most powerful card anyway, but I don't like it.

NVidia didn't have the fastest single-card anymore and they had it for such a long time. So they panicked and released the Titan, not part of a series, which will destabilize everything.
If they did right now, yes. But they won't.

What instead would happen is they would sit on it for a few months until the usual price drop of the 700 series rolls around (and it will), drop the titan to 800 or so, and then launch the new uber card. For luls, I shall call it the AMD Olympian. And lol5ever when someone gets wind of it and starts a rumor thread about the new "Leaked AMD Olympian, the Titan killer".

EDIT: Cuz fail.
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If AMD comes with something as high as the Titan, which will not happen until at least December, they will price it MUCH lower than the Titan to force Nvidia to lower their prices. By pricing it lower, they have more chance to sale a lot of them. (This is speculation but it will most likely happen)

But as you can see, Nvidia has a HUGE period to remain their prices like this. Thanks to AMD inactivity in the GPU market.

I don't think they will price something that is > than the Titan for less than 1k. They didn't before. 7970 was priced accordingly to GTX 580.
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If AMD comes with something as high as the Titan, which will not happen until at least December, they will price it MUCH lower than the Titan to force Nvidia to lower their prices. By pricing it lower, they have more chance to sale a lot of them

But as you can see, Nvidia has a HUGE period to remain their prices like this. Thanks to AMD inactivity in the GPU market.

If that is AMDs strategy, why bring out the 7990 at $1099 when they could have priced it under the Titan/690 and gained market share by advertising it as the fastest card on the market?

They've essentially driven their own fan base away by pricing it at a premium over even two 7970GHz editions? If they had launched it at $799, they would have flown off the shelves
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I'm surprised too, at the pricepoint.
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Wow, Titan sells really well
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People just purchased dual 680s instead...
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post #168 of 338
Titan is the emperor of emperors, supreme card in the world. Clearly, not all of us care much about value for performance. I am certainly not one of these people. I only want the best. 690 is just a disaster. Nothing is gonna beat Titan for sometime. You get future proofing and all. This card is so great that we should get three, because getting one feels insulting quite frankly. Anyone who does not want three clearly is too budget conscious, and that's not fair to the Titan. I wanted three, and I don't care if Nvidia introduces anything after the Titan, I am just so in love with butter smooth wink.gif

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1872433
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1866323&high=
Edited by armando666 - 5/18/13 at 4:15pm
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.......and, to people crying about the 780 3GB vRam, it STILL has more than a 690, just saying,......
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If I didn't already have three 680's to hold me over or the rule every other generation, I would of bought a couple titan's. I just wish intel would come out with a badass CPU so I could upgrade that soon.
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