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In fact, given a much tighter budget and the option of "only" using a couple of much less expensive GPUs in sli, I would be perfectly happy with the results on the left.

However, this is a thread comparing two different cards at the exact same price point, so you bet your ass I will take into account the actual gameplay experience of both in my decision on what to spend said $1000 on.
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How dare I be spoiled by the GPU I paid $1020 dollars for. I am such a brat. I mean, wouldn't want to expect the other GPU that costs 20 dollars less than mine to have comparable satisfaction.
I didn't say it was unplayable. When did I ever say that?

I said it was terrible. The game is perfectly playable like that, but seeing as I have the option to play much more like the right hand side than the left, for the same price (If I didn't get the SC edition), why would I choose the worse one?

I swear to god I find this hilarious. I really do.

So basically, you want a big gap between similar price point cards? But, you don't care what the gap in price points are? You'll just happily pay it?

You also exaggerated it beyond all belief, I guaranteed more than him made the assumption you meant it was unplayable, maybe because of you're thick-as-tar-tone.
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I swear to god I find this hilarious. I really do.

So basically, you want a big gap between similar price point cards? But, you don't care what the gap in price points are? You'll just happily pay it?

You also exaggerated it beyond all belief, I guaranteed more than him made the assumption you meant it was unplayable, maybe because of you're thick-as-tar-tone.
When did I say I expect a big gap between cards at the same price point?

Dude, stop putting words in my mouth. It isn't about "performance" it is about how smooth the output looks, and in my opinion the 690 fails miserably at it.

As for benchmarks, I just looked at one that put the 690 a whole whopping 7 fps ahead of the titan at 5760x1080 on crysis 3, which is the resolution I play at. I have precisely zero problem with this. The problem I have is the gameplay I saw on a 690 looked like the left side of that video, and I think in no world is that worth 7 fps. The titan simply delivers a better, smoother experience for the same price. FPS charts be damned.

EDIT: Cuz my broken wrist makes me miss keys and whatnot.

EDIT 2:

That's why you shouldn't sit there and assume things.
Edited by Masta Squidge - 5/19/13 at 12:31am
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All this means is NVIDIA's high end future offerings will all be $1000+ now if AMD cannot put pressure on them.

...or AMD's hedge fund owners get the same idea to 'further populate' the $1000+ market ...if you can't beat them, join them...witness the 'Malta' and soon the top-end versions of 'Volcanic Island' ?! thinking.gif
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If I was playing on one 1080P screen, I would have strongly considered buying the 690 just for this gap right here, even aside from the crap frame delivery. But I don't play at that resolution and it has been well established that the strength of the titan is at higher resolutions... which is made very apparent here.
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How dare I be spoiled by the GPU I paid $1020 dollars for. I am such a brat. I mean, wouldn't want to expect the other GPU that costs 20 dollars less than mine to have comparable satisfaction.
I didn't say it was unplayable. When did I ever say that?

I said it was terrible. The game is perfectly playable like that, but seeing as I have the option to play much more like the right hand side than the left, for the same price (If I didn't get the SC edition), why would I choose the worse one?

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When did I say I expect a big gap between cards at the same price point?

Dude, stop putting words in my mouth. It isn't about "performance" it is about how smooh the output looks, and in my opinion the 690 fails miserably at it.

As for benchmarks, I just looked at one that put the 690 a whole whopping 7 fps ahead of the titan at 5760x1080 on crysis 3, which is the resolution I play at. I have precisely zero problem with this. The problem I have is the gameplay I saw on a 690 looked like the left side of that video, and I think in no world is that worth 7 fps. The titan simply delivers a better, smoother experience for the same price. FPS charts be damned.

See the thing its thats what your first sentence in the top quote sounded like... just like your earlier quotes sounded like they said unplayable...

I agree with your point FPS isn't everything. However, I am just saying, not everyone sees it as big a deal as you do, and that's why there's an issue here. Personally I had to rewatch the vid a few times just to see if I infact understood that the around 1/8th a second stutter was what alatar is talking about (Which yes, I can admit is big, but I don't buy into the frequency it happens at)
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...or AMD's hedge fund owners get the same idea to 'further populate' the $1000+ market ...if you can't beat them, join them...witness the 'Malta' and soon the top-end versions of 'Volcanic Island' ?! thinking.gif

This is exactly the problem I have with this card. Right here.

EDIT: That's why you should articulate better rather than be condescending.
Edited by SniperTeamTango - 5/19/13 at 12:33am
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If I was playing on one 1080P screen, I would have strongly considered buying the 690 just for this gap right here, even aside from the crap frame delivery. But I don't play at that resolution and it has been well established that the strength of the titan is at higher resolutions... which is made very apparent here.

... You mean where it loses to the 7990 and the 690 by 35%?

It fares no better there than anywhere else. In fact, it's holding it's own better at 1080p. At least against the 7990 at is, where it's only 25% slower... it's 33% ish slower than the 690 across the board.
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All of my quotes said terrible, none of them said unplayable.
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... You mean where it loses to the 7990 and the 690 by 33%?

It fares no better there than anywhere else. In fact, it's holding it's own better at 1080p.
Yep, let me go buy a 7990 real quick.

Oh, and let me just get rid of two of my monitors so I can play at 1920x1080 and see this glorious 33% better performance, which sure does look snazzy when it amounts to 20+ fps, but it is pretty much a laughable statement at 7 given the resolution I would be playing at.

EDIT: And is a complete joke if it means I have the frame delivery problems I was very clearly seeing in my (admittedly limited) 690 experience.

I will take the card that looks faster, over the one that is faster any day of the week.
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... You mean where it loses to the 7990 and the 690 by 33%?

It fares no better there than anywhere else. In fact, it's holding it's own better at 1080p.
Yep, let me go buy a 7990 real quick.

Oh, and let me just get rid of two of my monitors so I can play at 1920x1080 and see this glorious 33% better performance, which sure does look snazzy when it amounts to 20+ fps, but it is pretty much a laughable statement at 7 given the resolution I would be playing at.

When you're below 30, every frame helps.

Duh.

Regardless, your claim that the Titan is (relatively) better at higher resolutions is 100% unfounded, and your own graph says you're wrong.
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