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California prevents discrimination based on political affiliation. Washington prevents discrimination based on sexual identity and preference.

Corporations are individuals under the law.

Ok,show me where a product is legally considered an individual Consider this....is it discrimination if a business refuses to serve you because you drive a Ford? Nope! Is it discrimination if a business refuses to serve you if you wear a shirt from a competitor? Nope! Was it discrimination when Coke and Pepsi both had the rule, If you were in company uniform and seen drinking the others soda you could be fired? Nope! Hospitals and Doctors offices have signs posted requiring you to turn off your cell phone (not that anyone pays attention) Is that illegal? Nope! These are prime examples of arbitrary policies and rules that are totally legal.

Let's face it, we're a bunch of computer geeks and nerds NOT lawyers. Bottom line is it will take Google or a someone refused service while wearing Google Glass to sue and become the landmark case. Until then we can sit behind our computer screens and debate the legalities of the bans and never agree.
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Ok,show me where a product is legally considered an individual Consider this....is it discrimination if a business refuses to serve you because you drive a Ford? Nope! Is it discrimination if a business refuses to serve you if you wear a shirt from a competitor? Nope! Was it discrimination when Coke and Pepsi both had the rule, If you were in company uniform and seen drinking the others soda you could be fired? Nope! Hospitals and Doctors offices have signs posted requiring you to turn off your cell phone (not that anyone pays attention) Is that illegal? Nope! These are prime examples of arbitrary policies and rules that are totally legal.

Let's face it, we're a bunch of computer geeks and nerds NOT lawyers. Bottom line is it will take Google or a someone refused service while wearing Google Glass to sue and become the landmark case. Until then we can sit behind our computer screens and debate the legalities of the bans and never agree.

People try to sue me once in a while when I don't let them into my place of business. I have never lost.
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Ok,show me where a product is legally considered an individual Consider this....is it discrimination if a business refuses to serve you because you drive a Ford? Nope! Is it discrimination if a business refuses to serve you if you wear a shirt from a competitor? Nope! Was it discrimination when Coke and Pepsi both had the rule, If you were in company uniform and seen drinking the others soda you could be fired? Nope! Hospitals and Doctors offices have signs posted requiring you to turn off your cell phone (not that anyone pays attention) Is that illegal? Nope! These are prime examples of arbitrary policies and rules that are totally legal.

Let's face it, we're a bunch of computer geeks and nerds NOT lawyers. Bottom line is it will take Google or a someone refused service while wearing Google Glass to sue and become the landmark case. Until then we can sit behind our computer screens and debate the legalities of the bans and never agree.
Nice moving of the goal posts there.

You can't ban a disabled person from your business because you don't like the brand of wheelchair they use. You can't ban a legally blind person person you don't like their brand of glasses. Some people who wear glasses are a protected class, and no business can discriminate against them based on their disability or equipment used in overcoming said disability. Businesses are not in the habit of asking disabled people to "show their papers" due to the extra time and employee training it would take, not to mention the bad publicity.
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Nice moving of the goal posts there.

You can't ban a disabled person from your business because you don't like the brand of wheelchair they use. You can't ban a legally blind person person you don't like their brand of glasses. Some people who wear glasses are a protected class, and no business can discriminate against them based on their disability or equipment used in overcoming said disability. Businesses are not in the habit of asking disabled people to "show their papers" due to the extra time and employee training it would take, not to mention the bad publicity.

I don't let people in with gold teeth.
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Who is this ridiculous person who forces them self to wear google goggles all day "because they would be visually impaired without them?"

I bet $1000 there are exactly 0 people like that right now, and 200 that it will be at least 5 years till someone is stupid enough to put themselves in that position.
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Who is this ridiculous person who forces them self to wear google goggles all day "because they would be visually impaired without them?"

I bet $1000 there are exactly 0 people like that right now, and 200 that it will be at least 5 years till someone is stupid enough to put themselves in that position.
The first one is a no brainer, since the product isn't even in final production yet. The second one I wouldn't be so sure of. If more and more businesses try to ban Google Glass Google will certainly make sure they get in the hands of a legally blind person, if for no other reason than to start the lawsuit.
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Nice moving of the goal posts there.

You can't ban a disabled person from your business because you don't like the brand of wheelchair they use. You can't ban a legally blind person person you don't like their brand of glasses. Some people who wear glasses are a protected class, and no business can discriminate against them based on their disability or equipment used in overcoming said disability. Businesses are not in the habit of asking disabled people to "show their papers" due to the extra time and employee training it would take, not to mention the bad publicity.

You make a good argument. But one small thing....Google Glass is NOT a medical device. It's a wearable computer allowing it's wearer to surf the web, check email etc. And just to be clear, I wear glasses and would never even consider paying what it would cost to have Google Glass made in my prescription. Sorry $1500 just for the Google Glass frames and then the $300 or so for the prescription lens'....not. in my lifetime.
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I think we should all walk into our local McDonalds for a month straight... every day... with our smartphones held up in the air recording video.

Maybe then we'll drive home the point that there are hundreds of mini cameras on the internet just waiting for purchase. And all anyone really needs is their phone, anyways. I think this is just another step in a much larger transition...

If you think about it, our entire society is on the verge of a major transition right now thanks to technology. Privacy... is going away. That's right folks. Get it through your thick skulls that within the next decade.. everything will be out there for everyone to see. There really isn't anything you can do to stop it. This will ultimately make it much easier for governments to track criminal activity so I doubt they object to the transition. But Google Glass is something that caught my attention the moment I first heard about it... and for this very reason. It will cause controversy and people will try to fight it. Just like people, mostly older generations, will try to fight the whole freedom of information movement as a whole.

You can raise hell about it, but look no further than the forum you are currently on. Overclock.net is a community of techies and geeks. It has been all of our money, invested in products and companies, over the years that lead to greater research and development. That R&D has brought us to the modern social media and products like Google Glass. There will be a transition taking form very soon. I suspect it will be younger generations versus old, devious people versus good, minorities versus majorities... but we'll see in time. The point is this. The days of keeping most of the information about yourself to yourself... will no longer be in your hands. We are turning into a very connected, data sharing, society. And that seems to be the way of the future. Share data, better ourselves on a global level by sharing all our data. Even the data about our own personal behavior.

I'm pretty sure someone will be furious that I'm okay with this and blast me in their response. But that's okay. I'm a Star Trek fan and kind of like where things are heading. If you don't, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
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I think we should all walk into our local McDonalds for a month straight... every day... with our smartphones held up in the air recording video.

Maybe then we'll drive home the point that there are hundreds of mini cameras on the internet just waiting for purchase. And all anyone really needs is their phone, anyways. I think this is just another step in a much larger transition...

If you think about it, our entire society is on the verge of a major transition right now thanks to technology. Privacy... is going away. That's right folks. Get it through your thick skulls that within the next decade.. everything will be out there for everyone to see. There really isn't anything you can do to stop it. This will ultimately make it much easier for governments to track criminal activity so I doubt they object to the transition. But Google Glass is something that caught my attention the moment I first heard about it... and for this very reason. It will cause controversy and people will try to fight it. Just like people, mostly older generations, will try to fight the whole freedom of information movement as a whole.

You can raise hell about it, but look no further than the forum you are currently on. Overclock.net is a community of techies and geeks. It has been all of our money, invested in products and companies, over the years that lead to greater research and development. That R&D has brought us to the modern social media and products like Google Glass. There will be a transition taking form very soon. I suspect it will be younger generations versus old, devious people versus good, minorities versus majorities... but we'll see in time. The point is this. The days of keeping most of the information about yourself to yourself... will no longer be in your hands. We are turning into a very connected, data sharing, society. And that seems to be the way of the future. Share data, better ourselves on a global level by sharing all our data. Even the data about our own personal behavior.

I'm pretty sure someone will be furious that I'm okay with this and blast me in their response. But that's okay. I'm a Star Trek fan and kind of like where things are heading. If you don't, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

People have been saying this since the 60's. Still hasn't happened.
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People have been saying this since the 60's. Still hasn't happened.

Uh... I don't think so. And they certainly didn't possess nano tech / solid state tech back then. Make your own timeline with major technological advances. Their rate has increased exponentially in the past 8 years. Plus... that was an era of... "change". People said a lot of things back then. Most of the people who came from that generation don't believe in global warming either. Which is both sad and hysterical to me. If you bring up global warming to them they respond with "they've been saying that since the 60s".

basically, it hasn't happened yet because we're just not getting the tech to make it a reality.
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