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If you're worried about being hacked by the NSA I assume you don't have a webcam or microphone/headset on your computer, or any sort of smartphone/tablet device in your house either? We've been hearing the same things about smartphones for years.

thats not the point, and its not the same thing at all. my vision is not via my phone, and discretion of conversation on a telephone is usually adheared to in public and to an extent privatley within ear shot of others, If you dont know whos recording you externally to your own communication device then you cant trust your own words = no privacy.
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Such an indicator doesn't really solve anything, same with the cell phone cameras being legally required to have a shutter sound. There are numerous camera apps or ROMs that just disable the sound anyway.

agree 100%

its sad that so many younger folk on here accept the fate of new technology without question. One day it will ruin / restrict their own adult life and their childrens even more so if its is not regulated sensibly. its even sader that once those rights are gone they wont come back. If you opt out of a phone, tablet, online accounts now you can at least keep your self quite private, with public upload you are recorded and analyzed outside of the computer you sit in front of in the real world. Of course companies and governments do this now, it does sit uneasy but its usually lost in the blur, only required for playback at the scene of a crime for example..

with public surveillance its capturing your life in realtime without your consent to be monitored by non responsible or regulated online groups ... does anyone actually welcome that ?

i supose its an issue of trust ? do you trust a busy government organization to keep that video safe VS a 13 year old uploading for the 'lulz' where is the enforcement then? a shared video could ruin court cases, cause mob violence and retaliation before facts have been established etc.. this already happened with phones but its just so much easier when video becomes your focus and not Txt on facebook chats
Edited by Pip Boy - 5/18/13 at 3:20pm
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Hey wait, aren't McDonalds independently owned and operated franchises? Wouldn't this mean it's up to the owner whether or not to allow google glass?
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As is their right. If you don't like being filmed there, don't eat there or work there.

Also, depending on the state, the whole Google Glass issue may blow up in the face of the Google Glass owners.

For example, in the state of Maryland, you can record the VIDEO of someone without their consent, but you can NOT record the audio.

Audio Recording
Most audio recordings without consent of one or all parties are illegal.
Recording audio is very different from video, there are definite federal and state laws prohibiting surreptitious recording and monitoring of audio conversations. These laws are taken very seriously by authorities and failure to abide by them could result in severe consequences.
There are two types of defined recording situations for audio recording. They are usually referred to as "One Party Consent" and "Two Party Consent".
"Two Party Consent" means the person recording the conversation must notify all of the other parties that the recording is taking place and they must consent to the recording.

States with "Two party Consent" for audio recording

California - Two Party
Connecticut - Two Party
Delaware - Two Party
Florida - Two Party
Hawaii - Two Party
Illinois - Two Party
Kansas - Two Party
Maryland - Two Party
Massachusetts - Two Party
Michigan - Two Party
Montana - Two Party
Nevada - Two Party
New Hampshire - Two Party
Pennsylvania - Two Party
Utah - Two Party
Washington - Two Party

I know that it's their right , what I'm saying is about the customers, don't think that mcdo bans the glass because they are concerned about their customer's privacy, they are not.

I'm pretty sure that in the state of California you can audio record without permission, as long as it's in public and there is no expectation of privacy.
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Yup they are.


Fortunately or unfortunately depending on where you are, here in Canada AFAIK there is no surveillance of that type. I don't mind the technology and in-fact I'm excited at what this means for app developers but like I said before, you will need my permission to record me doing my work. If I'm walking down the street going somewhere going to do something then I don't mind that kind of invasion since I'm not doing anything wrong but walking down the street going to do something.

I already know I'm being recorded by the company and that's fine if that's their condition to pay my wages. Still it is their restaurant, their property, their service to the customer, if you don't agree with these conditions of service then don't support the company.

Their used to be cameras spread around Vancouver streets that you could watch after the local TV station went off air a few years ago, I assume their were more that the station didn't show, but it was amusing watching the drunks after getting home from the Pub.
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as long as it's in public and there is no expectation of privacy.

which is another point. being in public isnt a private space, but that should not mean you implicitly lose the right to not have your face, conversation, body exposed / recorded to be viewed by millions does it?
its an infringement and the law needs to drag its lazy ass into the current century ! this is likewise technology used in a completely different context
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Nonsense, soon we will have a pair of regular shades that will record w/o anyone knowing. It's just a matter of time.

They are already out. Been out for a while. http://www.amazon.com/camera-photo/dp/B0073J9066
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which is another point. being in public isnt a private space, but that should not mean you implicitly lose the right to not have your face, conversation, body exposed / recorded to be viewed by millions does it?
its an infringement and the law needs to drag its lazy ass into the current century ! this is likewise technology used in a completely different context

I'm not saying that it's right, i'm just saying that it is legal. At least in the state of California.
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I'm not saying that it's right, i'm just saying that it is legal. At least in the state of California.

ohh im sure it is, which is why i think there needs to be law and guidelines that shape the devices capability for the general public (thats not easily hacked)
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I know that it's their right , what I'm saying is about the customers, don't think that mcdo bans the glass because they are concerned about their customer's privacy, they are not.

I'm pretty sure that in the state of California you can audio record without permission, as long as it's in public and there is no expectation of privacy.

Recording someone in a semi-public place falls into the gray area of California law ...
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California's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632. The statute applies to "confidential communications" -- i.e., conversations in which one of the parties has an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation. See Flanagan v. Flanagan, 41 P.3d 575, 576-77, 578-82 (Cal. 2002). A California appellate court has ruled that this statute applies to the use of hidden video cameras to record conversations as well. See California v. Gibbons, 215 Cal. App. 3d 1204 (Cal Ct. App. 1989).

If you are recording someone without their knowledge in a public or semi-public place like a street or restaurant, the person whom you're recording may or may not have "an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation," and the reasonableness of the expectation would depend on the particular factual circumstances. Therefore, you cannot necessarily assume that you are in the clear simply because you are in a public place.

If you are operating in California, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any conversation that common sense tells you might be "private" or "confidential." In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the California wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party. See Cal. Penal Code § 637.2.

Consult The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press's Can We Tape?: California for more information on California wiretapping law.



And then there is Federal law ...

18 USC CHAPTER 119 - WIRE AND ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS INTERCEPTION AND INTERCEPTION OF ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 5/18/13 at 4:01pm
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They are already out. Been out for a while. http://www.amazon.com/camera-photo/dp/B0073J9066

yea but that is kiddy-spy garbage.. im talking about high end shades that will look just like a normal pair but with a hidden cam + digital recording @ 720p or higher.
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