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I got this yesterday (brown). It is the first 'proper' keyboard I ever got (well, I had used various Model Ms and clones in the old days) and I noticed the following problems:

(Don't get it wrong, I don't like attacking the keyboard, I just find it beneficial for the technology in whole to point out flaws about computer components in general for improvement.)

1. I'm a bit disappointed at the "non perfection" of mechanical keyboards in general at this age (decades after the first ones). I mean that when I gently press down any key I can feel the slight vibrations of resistance it has when the key cap and switch components interact with each other. What I mean is, there appears to be a discrepancy between the feel the switch itself provides and the switch + keycap. The keycaps appear to provide additional mechanical bulk so to speak that slightly distorts the feel the keys could have.

As I said, this is strictly about the keyboard technology in general and I do not specifically attack this model or maker. I doubt this problem does no exist on other models, unless maybe the keycap material is different (I would still doubt it, or at least I doubt it would go away completely that easily).

2. The MX switches do no appear to be perfect in terms of tactility. What I mean is, they simply feel to fail - very rarely - to register a click even if the tactility event has been physically felt. Now, this might be affected by the fact I was TRYING to produce it, hence it might be more susceptible to clicks that have a partial force inflicted on the key already and then only the extra force needed to JUST produce the tactility event is inflicted. i.e. it might be more prone to happen if one already has their fingers on the keys and then only inflicts the extra force needed to register a tactility event. It is rare though, even if one tries for it.

Again, this is not about this keyboard but the MX switches technology in general.
Edited by fateswarm - 5/27/13 at 1:04pm
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After further investigation it appears at least part of the non-smooth feel issue has as a culprit a very obvious friction existing in a switch itself between the main lever of it and the chassis.

I wonder if it could be greased somehow (WD-40?) but I doubt that's possible.

I suspect the only solution could be metallic switches of some sort.
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post #3 of 12
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Originally Posted by fateswarm View Post

I got this yesterday (brown). It is the first 'proper' keyboard I ever got (well, I had used various Model Ms and clones in the old days) and I noticed the following problems:

(Don't get it wrong, I don't like attacking the keyboard, I just find it beneficial for the technology in whole to point out flaws about computer components in general for improvement.)

1. I'm a bit disappointed at the "non perfection" of mechanical keyboards in general at this age (decades after the first ones). I mean that when I gently press down any key I can feel the slight vibrations of resistance it has when the key cap and switch components interact with each other. What I mean is, there appears to be a discrepancy between the feel the switch itself provides and the switch + keycap. The keycaps appear to provide additional mechanical bulk so to speak that slightly distorts the feel the keys could have. That would be the tactile feedback of Browns, might be confusing that feel with irregularity. Type of on some Reds and you'll see what I mean.

As I said, this is strictly about the keyboard technology in general and I do not specifically attack this model or maker. I doubt this problem does no exist on other models, unless maybe the keycap material is different (I would still doubt it, or at least I doubt it would go away completely that easily).

2. The MX switches do no appear to be perfect in terms of ductility. What I mean is, they simply feel to fail - very rarely - to register a click even if the ductility event has been physically felt. Now, this might be affected by the fact I was TRYING to produce it, hence it might be more susceptible to clicks that have a partial force inflicted on the key already and then only the extra force needed to JUST produce the ductility event is inflicted. i.e. it might be more prone to happen if one already has their fingers on the keys and then only inflicts the extra force needed to register a ductile event. It is rare though, even if one tries for it. The Brown tactile bump is subtle and it does not take much more force above and beyond Reds as they are mechanically the same except for the light bump on the way down.

Again, this is not about this keyboard but the MX switches technology in general.

Give the board some more time and I would definitely recommend you play with some Reds to get you a point of reference.
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I wonder if it could be greased somehow (WD-40?) but I doubt that's possible.

NOOOO not WD-40!
The general majority of people fail to realize WD-40 is NOT a lubricant. Its too "light" to be a lubricant, unlike actual grease, which is very thick and viscous.

I typically stick to using WD-40 to clean mechanical parts (remove rust, clean off old grease caked with dust, etc) then apply actual lube.

There actually is a specific grease used in MX switches (most MX switches are not greased by default however). Its called DuPont™ Krytox® GPL 103 (or any Krytox series lube actually).

And I agree with what AJR said. You might just be experiencing the peculiarities of the MX Brown.
However, I use browns and I've never had your second issue.
If you press very very lightly, and slowly, the key should go down smoothly, hit a bump, and then continue going down until it bottoms out.
After you hit the bump is when the key should actually register.
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post #5 of 12
What is interesting is that this is your first mechanical keyboard and it is a brown. As you have no experience with mechanical keyboards, I would suggest trying others out. Some people refer to brown switches as "crunchy" or something to that sort. I have the same keyboard as you and am quite enjoying it. There are many variations of mechanical keyboards, I would suggest if you could get your hands on other ones I would do so. You might want a red or a blue to see the difference.

Finally, I wouldn't use wd 40 on your keyboard...I would try some silicon grease. Try here: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc

worst case, I would talk to coolermaster, their customer service is pretty good.
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post #6 of 12
I myself just bought the same keyboard; Limited Edition TK Brown. However, I find the Ducky Shine II TKL Browns that I have to feel a little sharper than the TK. Probably due to the keycaps and the travel as they use the same Cherry MX Browns.
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I myself just bought the same keyboard; Limited Edition TK Brown. However, I find the Ducky Shine II TKL Browns that I have to feel a little sharper than the TK. Probably due to the keycaps and the travel as they use the same Cherry MX Browns.
I have the same exact board too. The browns on the ducky seems little more "crunchy"...not a bad crunch, but I feel the "tactileness" a little more, if that makes sense.
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Compare to my BlackWidow it did seem different untill i used it for ~ 2 week. You have to let the keep break in. Feel very ruff at first.
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post #9 of 12
I have the quickfire and it has wobbly switches as well, but I have no other keyboard to compare it to
post #10 of 12
Oh well, just a random pretentious nitpicker labeling something he doesn't understand as "non perfect". Your first 94 words issue is actually called "Tactility". The second one is normal on all tactile switches.
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