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I'll admit, i didn't know that lol. I mainly look at AMDs benchmarks because they are what i use. My 7970 and 570 didn't rally gain much from memory OC. Good to know. thumb.gif

Titan only has as much bandwidth as the 7970GHz, it's understandable why it benefits from memory OC.

Lack of bandwidth is why Nvidia is going with stacked chips with Volta.
 
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post #132 of 1081
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Thanks Tiger! Looks like 3Gb is more than enough for bf3.


GenoOCAU, stop raging and go back at school, they forgot to teach you an important lesson.

Stop arguing. I'm trying to follow this thread. No one needs to have the last word, and no one needs to argue about computer components of all things. We are here to learn.
post #133 of 1081
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That sounds reference pcb with a non reference cooler therefor it is still a reference card just a different cooler.
I want non reference pcb biggrin.gif


Well, true.
I kind of correct my question:

How long does it usually take for a graphic card to come out with an non-reference cooler (preferably from Asus)?
and then how it usually takes for a graphic card to be released with a non-reference pcb.
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Stop arguing. I'm trying to follow this thread. No one needs to have the last word, and no one needs to argue about computer components of all things. We are here to learn.

I know this.
post #135 of 1081
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Well, true.
I kind of correct my question:

How long does it usually take for a graphic card to come out with an non-reference cooler (preferably from Asus)?
and then how it usually takes for a graphic card to be released with a non-reference pcb.
A month or 2 if Nvidia allows it.
Nvidia probably won't allow non ref pcb's but they might Project green(RED)light
post #136 of 1081
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Titan only has as much bandwidth as the 7970GHz, it's understandable why it benefits from memory OC.

Lack of bandwidth is why Nvidia is going with stacked chips with Volta.


The lack of bandwidth is Intel and some motherboard manufacturers fault.
Since the XDR 2 DRAM was out for already long time (8 years), which has more than twice the peak bandwidth per device when compared to a GDDR5, but Intel and mobo manufacturers refused to implement it.
They refused to implement it, because they still need to make $ from DDR3 SDRAM and from GDDR5.



"Each XDR 2 DRAM can deliver up to 80GB/s of peak bandwidth from a single, 4-byte-wide, 20Gbps XDR 2 DRAM device. With this capability, systems can achieve memory bandwidth of over 500GB/s on a single SoC"



That how they slow down the course of modernization of Personal Computers!
Edited by KsnNwk - 5/19/13 at 6:13am
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^ Maybe people just don't want to deal with rambus.
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post #138 of 1081
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A month or 2 if Nvidia allows it.
Nvidia probably won't allow non ref pcb's but they might Project green(RED)light

So if I understood you correctly, then the non-reference cooler will be out in a month or 2 from release, if Nvidia allows it.
then Nvidia probaly won't allow non-reference PCB's, but I didn't understood the Project green (Red) thing you wrote.
post #139 of 1081
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The lack of bandwidth is Intel and AMD fault.
Since the XDR 2 DRAM is out for already long time (8 years), which has more than twice the peak bandwidth per device when compared to a GDDR5, but the Processors manufacturers and mobo manufacturers refuse to implement it.
They refused to implement it, because they still need to make $ from DDR3 SDRAM and from GDDR5.



"Each XDR 2 DRAM can deliver up to 80GB/s of peak bandwidth from a single, 4-byte-wide, 20Gbps XDR 2 DRAM device. With this capability, systems can achieve memory bandwidth of over 500GB/s on a single SoC"



That how they slow down the course of modernization of Personal Computers!
I would put this more on Intel than on AMD as AMD is the co-founder of GDDR5 and actually would like to replace their GDDR5 with XDR or GDDR6 once it is proven to work flawlessly like current standards.
Businesses don't like to take risks while mass producing.
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There will be non ref cards some time after launch.
 
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