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Not sure how someone could think nvidia would release it for 700$. By those standards the 670 should have been 475$ or more. It was the exact same situation. Top of the line card out of stock selling well, they release a cut down version that was essentially the same card but disabled for 150$ cheaper, same vram,
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Wouldn't be surprised if it were $800... Would be highway robbery though. Fair market value would be 600-650 imo.

Anyone saying 500-550 can dream on though. Definitely not happening
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Wouldn't be surprised if it were $800... Would be highway robbery though. Fair market value would be 600-650 imo.

Anyone saying 500-550 can dream on though. Definitely not happening
who the hell would a 800$ cut down titan appeal too! Seriously cmon people, you think nvidia has a bunch of morons running there economics division.
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500-600 would be the optimal pricing if you really want to get into it. I'd expect a new 680 price cut, to put it at 400-450 (reference design) and the 780 at 500+, since AMD isn't officially releasing anything new. In case they do, you won't see a 600USD base price from Nvidia.

That would still leave the 770 to be ~450, keeping pricing evenly set. Either way, a 600USD base isn't likely. The 600-800 pricing range we've seen thrown around isn't even solid from a business point of view. That means for an extra 200-300 the customer might as well get a Titian. That's already out, they are already making money on that price range.

Worst case, you see them keep the 500+ pricing for a while, to force 680 stock to get sold. Either way, this price scare is stupid. We saw the 580/680 released at ~500USD, don't see a reason for them to differ just because the card has more performance. That happens every year, and every year they release at around 500. Coincidence?
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who the hell would a 800$ cut down titan appeal too! Seriously cmon people, you think nvidia has a bunch of morons running there economics division.

It wouldn't appeal to most people at all but I guarantee it would still sell. The whole point of this discussion is that Nvidia can price stuff without the pressures of competition.

That's why there's a higher chance of it costing more than your guess of $549.99. The 770, a rehashed GK104 is rumored at $450. It's going to be 5% faster than the 680.. The 780 is rumored to be 25-30% faster than the 680 and only 15% slower than the Titan. If we are pricing based on performance, there's little chance the 780 will go for 500-550.

I think it's only logical, but I may be wrong.
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GoldenTiger how much you're willing to spend for the 780, to the max?

Probably $600 but I'll admit I might hit buy anyway if I see it hit at 650 on amazon. Not necessarily, though, to be honest.
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500-600 would be the optimal pricing if you really want to get into it. I'd expect a new 680 price cut, to put it at 400-450 (reference design) and the 780 at 500+, since AMD isn't officially releasing anything new. In case they do, you won't see a 600USD base price from Nvidia.

That would still leave the 770 to be ~450, keeping pricing evenly set. Either way, a 600USD base isn't likely. The 600-800 pricing range we've seen thrown around isn't even solid from a business point of view. That means for an extra 200-300 the customer might as well get a Titian. That's already out, they are already making money on that price range.

Worst case, you see them keep the 500+ pricing for a while, to force 680 stock to get sold. Either way, this price scare is stupid. We saw the 580/680 released at ~500USD, don't see a reason for them to differ just because the card has more performance. That happens every year, and every year they release at around 500. Coincidence?

Exactly how I see things too.
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Not sure how someone could think nvidia would release it for 700$. By those standards the 670 should have been 475$ or more. It was the exact same situation. Top of the line card out of stock selling well, they release a cut down version that was essentially the same card but disabled for 150$ cheaper, same vram,

The GTX 670 had competition at the time. It was the HD 7950.

It is a totally different scenario that the market is living right now. It is called lack of competition.

My initial guess is 650$ - 700$. If someone think its too expensive for a cut down Titan, they will whether get a GTX 770 or GTX Titan. Nvidia has no choice but to win. The Titan and GTX 780 PCBs are identical (almost), its not 3GB Vram that will cut down a 1000$ (Titan) price tag to 549$ (780).


But I guess only time will answer our assumptions. (we have to wait a couple of days( or hours)) wink.gif
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500-600 would be the optimal pricing if you really want to get into it. I'd expect a new 680 price cut, to put it at 400-450 (reference design) and the 780 at 500+, since AMD isn't officially releasing anything new. In case they do, you won't see a 600USD base price from Nvidia.

That would still leave the 770 to be ~450, keeping pricing evenly set. Either way, a 600USD base isn't likely. The 600-800 pricing range we've seen thrown around isn't even solid from a business point of view. That means for an extra 200-300 the customer might as well get a Titian. That's already out, they are already making money on that price range.

Worst case, you see them keep the 500+ pricing for a while, to force 680 stock to get sold. Either way, this price scare is stupid. We saw the 580/680 released at ~500USD, don't see a reason for them to differ just because the card has more performance. That happens every year, and every year they release at around 500. Coincidence?

I agree it won't be $800. It would put it almost exactly at the titan price/performance and since titan is viewed as a "halo" card, you get a higher price for the luxury of owning it.

But, could it be $650-$700? Absolutely. You have a better price/performance than titan at a lower entry price and people are itching because of not wanting to spend 1k on GPUs but feel the lure. Its tempting to think that for $700 each, you could get 3 for $2100 and have 20% better performance (assuming the 780 is 20% under titan than 2 titans for $100 more.
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Yeah, I've been saying $599 from the start but I think $650+ is more likely. I've said it before and I'll say it again: There is no $500 flagship video card pricing rule. Market conditions have to be taken into account and the fact that the $1000 Titan has outsold the 690 in just 3 months combined with the facts that the 780 will be a 90% Titan and AMD won't have anything to compete with it for at least 6 months mean that Nvidia has free reign to price the 780 as high as they want. Whatever they price it at its going to sell out for months, guaranteed...
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