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post #371 of 1081
Well the 7970ghz is still faster then the 770 yet costs what, 420? Also comes with 4 free games. Considering the 770 is a 680 and they can probrably improve on there proccess since the 680 launch a 400$ launch isnt impossible
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Yeah, I've been saying $599 from the start but I think $650+ is more likely. I've said it before and I'll say it again: There is no $500 flagship video card pricing rule. Market conditions have to be taken into account and the fact that the $1000 Titan has outsold the 690 in just 3 months combined with the facts that the 780 will be a 90% Titan and AMD won't have anything to compete with it for at least 6 months mean that Nvidia has free reign to price the 780 as high as they want. Whatever they price it at its going to sell out for months, guaranteed...
Titan vs 690 isnt a fair arguement. Sli 690s is a joke, devs , sli gamers and high res gamers want a titan. Those dont aplly to the 780gtx. You guys all mention competition. Remember the 580 gtx came out a year after the 5870. It was 30-35% faster, launched at 499$ and sold well. Ill try and show the chart on my phone that shows the 580 vs 5870 was nearly the same as a 7970 vs titan
post #373 of 1081
Thing is that there was no "Titan" released 2 months before the 580 at $1000 back then so the situation is not remotely comparable. Like it or not, the release of Titan as basically 90% the same card as the 780 makes a huge difference with the 780's release over any other flagship release that I can remember...
post #374 of 1081
GTX 580 went against 6970

GTX 580 was a 15% + performance
post #375 of 1081
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I agree it won't be $800. It would put it almost exactly at the titan price/performance and since titan is viewed as a "halo" card, you get a higher price for the luxury of owning it.

But, could it be $650-$700? Absolutely. You have a better price/performance than titan at a lower entry price and people are itching because of not wanting to spend 1k on GPUs but feel the lure. Its tempting to think that for $700 each, you could get 3 for $2100 and have insanely better performance than 2 titans for $100 more.

The titian is a different market entirely. You can't really use it's pricing on a basis, as it has options that none of the other consumer market cards have. Even though the 780 is a lesser version, I expect it to be closer to the other series cards. It won't have the computational power of the Titian, expect things like DP to not be in the control panel.

$700 is still too high as well, that puts it at 300 from the Titian. If you've got 700, you certainly can save up for 1k. Now some people might do what you said, sure and go for 3. Heck, you could go for 4 680s by then and just go all out quad-sli. It'll be around the 2k mark and probably butter smooth. Or just get 4x770s (same card, prob close in price) for the same thing. That's always going to happen, but 700 for one card.... doubtful.

I'd say max you'll see cards priced on release is maybe 650 but closer to 500-600. Nvidia hasn't differed from that price range in their cards since....What, 480/580/680 was all MSRP'd around 500USD. Why on earth would they change that now? Especially with a company that is finally biting at their heels in performance. Not gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Yeah, I've been saying $599 from the start but I think $650+ is more likely. I've said it before and I'll say it again: There is no $500 flagship video card pricing rule. Market conditions have to be taken into account and the fact that the $1000 Titan has outsold the 690 in just 3 months combined with the facts that the 780 will be a 90% Titan and AMD won't have anything to compete with it for at least 6 months mean that Nvidia has free reign to price the 780 as high as they want. Whatever they price it at its going to sell out for months, guaranteed...

Same above.
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Now, it is more a situation such as:

8800GTX vs 2900XT (performance)

but perhaps even worse
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I've said it for awhile, but I'll be surprised if it's over $600, and frankly think 550/below is very possible... who has the betting pool again? tongue.gif
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580 came out before the 6970 and was compared to a 5870 just like the 780 will be compared to a 7970. The titan can be priced at 1000$ because its the only solution for gamers at ultra high resolutions, developers, and sli users. They dont care if titan dies after the 780. They want a higher volume of sales without running strict tests the titan demands to be stabile. 780 allows them to sell more units, and still have a niche for the titan.

A 650$ price point kills any interest in this unit for many. While people that would have bought a titan buy the 780 and they lose money from the coulda been 1000$ sale they also miss the higher volume sale of a standard price release and potentially lose customers to the amd 9000 series.
post #379 of 1081
I have to say, the guys thinking this card will retail for $550...You are smoking some good ****.
This is Nvidia we are talking about lol. If its only 10-20% slower than a titan your probably looking at $700.
    
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You could say that about a 700$ price tag. You lose out on the 1000$ sales of titan would be owners but also miss out on higher volume mainstream sales
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