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post #511 of 1081

And what is that suppose to tell us?

We don't know much about the HD 9xxx series right now, it could even be better or worse than the rumors. We absolutely know not enough. It can be 20nm and GDDR6... we just don't know.

I don't know if you are trying to discourage people to get Volcanic Island and jump on Nvidia instead? Just asking.

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It is not like Nvidia is going to stop making Titans once the 780 is realeased. Nvidia does not care about current Titan owners, but what about potential Titan owners? $599 minimum for the 780... mark my words.

^^This

The GTX 780 seems to close to the Titan, I say 650$ - 700$ and it will sell like REALLY hot cakes. wink.gif
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post #512 of 1081
Alatar's still valiantly trying to bat down any rumors of a possible 20nm VI because if AMD were somehow able to pull that one off he'd probably have to have himself commited! tongue.gif
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It is not like Nvidia is going to stop making Titans once the 780 is realeased. Nvidia does not care about current Titan owners, but what about potential Titan owners? $599 minimum for the 780... mark my words.
There are no potential Titan owners. There are only potential 780 owners. The only way anyone buys a Titan over a 780 at this point would be due to a niche need , compute, pro graphic,whatever.
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There are no potential Titan owners. There are only potential 780 owners. The only way anyone buys a Titan over a 780 at this point would be due to a niche need , compute, pro graphic,whatever.

Not if the 780 was priced nearer to the Titan which is what we are all saying in the first place...
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There are no potential Titan owners. There are only potential 780 owners. The only way anyone buys a Titan over a 780 at this point would be due to a niche need , compute, pro graphic,whatever.

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Not if the 780 was priced nearer to the Titan which is what we are all saying in the first place...

I believe that the market at that high a price point is already tapped out. I could be wrong, who knows.
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There are no potential Titan owners. There are only potential 780 owners. The only way anyone buys a Titan over a 780 at this point would be due to a niche need , compute, pro graphic,whatever.

There are plenty of people who want the fastest stuff out there.

The thing is that Nvidia most likely has limited quantities of GK110s so they'll want to maximize their profits. Bad for us but what can you do.

And yes if we had 20nm VI come out late this year I would have to get one along with IB-E lol.
 
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Judging by the fact that Titan remains in limited supply even three months after launch and with the rumors of the 780 running rampant, I'd say the market has hardly tapped out
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Alatar's still valiantly trying to bat down any rumors of a possible 20nm VI because if AMD were somehow able to pull that one off he'd probably have to have himself commited! tongue.gif

TSMC has reported being ahead of its 20nm roadmap so I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. And actually, AMD is extremely silent and low-profile recently. I hope it's good news.




TSMC Is Ahead of Its Own 20nm Roadmap – Report .

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Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. will begin to install manufacturing equipment that will be utilized to make chips using 20nm process technology later in April, around two months ahead of TSMC’s own schedule. In case all goes well, then TSMC will be able to manufacture 20nm chips in commercial volumes starting late this year.

On April 20, TSMC, the world’s largest contract makers of semiconductors, will start to install new equipment that is needed to manufacture various chips using 20nm process technology into its new Fab 14/phase 5 facility, reports FocusTaiwan. The company has reportedly sent more than 100 engineers to equipment manufacturers in the United States, Europe and Japan to “conduct quality checks to make sure that its new plant can start operations in the new time frame”.


TSMC 2013 Symposium: Progress in 20nm, 16nm FinFET, and 3D-IC Technologies

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Design Enablement

All this new technology sounds promising, but how will it be implemented? Cliff Hou (right) tackled that subject with his keynote on "design enablement and the ecosystem." He made the following points about the 20nm and 16nm nodes:

  • 20nm is production-ready now, with numerous EDA tools qualified and 185 design kits available. All foundation IP and some critical interface IP has passed qualification.
  • FinFET technology requires some new tool capabilities, including 3D parasitic extraction, a new parameter (NFIN, the number of fins) for the custom IC flow, FinFET-aware circuit simulation, and ESD (electrostatic discharge) analysis.
  • For the 16nm FinFET node, "most of the EDA tool ecosystem will be ready for you to start design by the end of July."
  • The 16nm node uses 7.5 track libraries. This provides better performance than the 9-track libraries used at the 20nm node.
  • Comparison of 16nm FinFET 7.5T to 20nm 9T: 37% less power at the same speed, or 26% better performance at the same leakage.
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Well I think it would be somewhat of a miracle if AMD were to pull that off but it sure would be great for the PC gaming industry...
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