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I doubt Nvidia is selling enough Titan's for them to be considerd a "cash cow" for Nvidia at this point.  Yes they aren't in stock anywhere, but they aren't selling thousands of them a week or anything.  It's a small market card, so I don't think it is going to impact GTX 780 pricing as much as some people think. 

 

Nvidia is competing with AMD, not Titan, and even if a GTX 780 is 20~30% faster than a HD 7970GE, Nvidia isn't going to be able to charge 50% more for it [at least not if they hope to sell it in real volume].  Which is why I think $700 is out of the question for the GTX 780.  $549 or $599 is much more likely.

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Originally Posted by maneil99 View Post

Theres also the chinese store and the zotac for 499/599 respectively
Zotac is the best supplier of gpus for as far as I know.
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Zotac is the best supplier of gpus for as far as I know.

If it's for 599$ in Chinese store, then we already know it is going to be for around 650$ -700$ in US, and around 750$ - 800$ in Europe.
Since the retailers sellers, always add around 50$ - 100$ for taxes, if they sending it over from different continents.


To be honest, I wouldn't have problem if the GTX 780 was for 700$ - 800$ just if it would be here in Norway.
Since the cheapest GTX 680 is still for over 620$ in Norway.....the companies are ripping people off here!
Edited by KsnNwk - 5/20/13 at 1:40pm
post #574 of 1081
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I doubt Nvidia is selling enough Titan's for them to be considerd a "cash cow" for Nvidia at this point.  Yes they aren't in stock anywhere, but they aren't selling thousands of them a week or anything.  It's a small market card, so I don't think it is going to impact GTX 780 pricing as much as some people think. 

Nvidia is competing with AMD, not Titan, and even if a GTX 780 is 20~30% faster than a HD 7970GE, Nvidia isn't going to be able to charge 50% more for it [at least not if they hope to sell it in real volume].  Which is why I think $700 is out of the question for the GTX 780.  $549 or $599 is much more likely.

you have to look at it this way, in terms of performance the titan is not a 1K GPU therefore NV is making more money than they are supposed to on that specific card. For instance if AMD had a card that could compete with Titan the price of the card would be lower. Since NV has no competition at this point in time NV can overprice and users will buy regardless. Titan has already outsold the 690 and it only took a month, that right there tells you that NV is making good money on them.

Edit :

Newegg/B&H/Fry's and a few other retailers have plenty Titans in stock.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121724

http://www.macmall.com/p/Evga-Video-Cards/product~DPNo~9519309~pdp.ibdfjdf?source=mwbgoogleshop&adtype=pla&kw={keyword}&gclid=CNSiusPHpbcCFUxp7Aod4g0AnQ

http://www.frys.com/product/7582536?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
Edited by Maiky - 5/20/13 at 1:50pm
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you have to look at it this way, in terms of performance the titan is not a 1K GPU therefore NV is making more money than they are supposed to on that specific card. For instance if AMD had a card that could compete with Titan the price of the card would be lower. Since NV has no competition at this point in time NV can overprice and users will buy regardless. Titan has already outsold the 690 and it only took a month, that right there tells you that NV is making good money on them.

Titan outselling 690 is just PR. The article did not provide any specific number of Titans sold vs 690 sold. For all we know they made it up.
Foreman point was about quantity.
post #576 of 1081
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Originally Posted by Maiky View Post

you have to look at it this way, in terms of performance the titan is not a 1K GPU therefore NV is making more money than they are supposed to on that specific card. For instance if AMD had a card that could compete with Titan the price of the card would be lower. Since NV has no competition at this point in time NV can overprice and users will buy regardless. Titan has already outsold the 690 and it only took a month, that right there tells you that NV is making good money on them.

Edit :

Newegg/B&H/Fry's and a few other retailers have plenty Titans in stock.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121724

http://www.macmall.com/p/Evga-Video-Cards/product~DPNo~9519309~pdp.ibdfjdf?source=mwbgoogleshop&adtype=pla&kw={keyword}&gclid=CNSiusPHpbcCFUxp7Aod4g0AnQ

http://www.frys.com/product/7582536?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Amd does have a card to compete with Titan and 690 at $1k price, it's the 7990. Neither Amd or Nvidia lower the price for their 690 and 7990.
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Man its going to be really interesting to see what the final price turns out to be and the reaction to it around here ought to be fascinating!
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Well, seems your reasoning skill is also lacking.
We don't dictate prices, we just assume the pricing. It is Nvidia that is dictating the prices.

We also think that the price should be at 500$ - 650$, it just that AMD didn't made any graphic cards to compete with Nvidia.
So that they would price it at lower price, so at the current moment the GTX 7xx series is a lone wolf, without any competition to downgrade the price.

Therefore if the price of Titan won't come down, then assume that if GTX 780 is only little worse than Titan, it would cost around 700$, since there is no need for Nvidia to downgrade the pricing.
Because there is no one that is competing with them on GPU market, that's the problem.

So please, Old man (sine I'm high school kid for you), get your reasoning straight.
We don't want high prices, but we are forced.


and I need a new GPU, I'm running at GTX 320, so yeah.
I'm forced to pay that price, by both Nvidia and AMD.


I dont understand how it is you believe there is no competition. Yet at the same time think Nvidia sets their own price. They do not. They have extensive research on how much the market will pay.
There is competition. STIFF COMPETITION Perhaps more than you think. Look at the benchmarks. Why do you think n_v created titan? Lastly there is no such thing as a GTX 320. A Geforce GT 320 OEM
nvidia.com/Geforce GT320
http://www.overclock.net/f/21/benchmarking-software-and-discussion
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I dont understand how it is you believe there is no competition. Yet at the same time think Nvidia sets their own price. They do not. They have extensive research on how much the market will pay.
There is competition. STIFF COMPETITION Perhaps more than you think. Look at the benchmarks. Why do you think n_v created titan? Lastly there is no such thing as a GTX 320. A Geforce GT 320 OEM
nvidia.com/Geforce GT320
http://www.overclock.net/f/21/benchmarking-software-and-discussion

I think that you give Nvidia more credit than yourself.
What market? We are it, and their research starts and ends here when it comes to consumer GPUs.
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Considering the Titans GK110 gpu originated from a high end workstations i can agree with the $1000 price point considering the target demographics were companies and research sectors who can find the funding to support the cost (again that particular market dictated the cost).

However once the 780 translated to the consumer market with gimped processing capabilities I would have thought you guys would love to see a significant price reduction, since most of you will probably be playing games with it, benching your manliness, and some actually using compu performance (in that case get a Titan)

It's your money kids, do what you will. Reminds me of the automotive industry, the days when the Subaru Impreza WRX and STI price comparisons made sense with value wink.gif
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