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They already have most everyone's money who would actually have bought a Titan at $1k... no reason to not grab the $550-600 crowd now, push Titan to 800, and release a 15SMX Titan Ultra soon after. Just my insane ramblings wink.gif.

I dun think they will release anything they don't have to. The Titan came b/c they no longer had the fastest single GPU on the market (bad for the rep). Now they fight 7970 with milking the last drop of performance from 680 (770) and it will work seeing how they oversold AMD's 7xxx cards.
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All in all, from all the scenarios, the only one that makes any sense, considering the only one moving positions is NVIDIA (if they needed to drop the prices they wouldn't need another series), is to price GTX780 at or above $699. This way, you still make the Titan not that stupid to buy, since it gives you double the ram and some more performance, and you can price the GTX770 without killing everything nor being a stupid decision.

Why is everyone forgetting that AMD still exists?  Who is going to pay $699 for a GTX 780 when you can get a HD 7970GE for under $450?  Why would anyone pay 55% more for a mainstream card that has the same amount of VRAM and maybe 25% better performance?

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Why is everyone forgetting that AMD still exists?  Who is going to pay $699 for a GTX 780 when you can get a HD 7970GE for under $450?  Why would anyone pay 55% more for a mainstream card that has the same amount of VRAM and maybe 25% better performance?

Now you come up with 25% better performance tongue.gifsmile.gif
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Why is everyone forgetting that AMD still exists?  Who is going to pay $699 for a GTX 780 when you can get a HD 7970GE for under $450?  Why would anyone pay 55% more for a mainstream card that has the same amount of VRAM and maybe 25% better performance?
Exactly. Just as nVidia (and everyone) keeps saying, Titan was not a mainstream card or intended to really push on the normal market... it was like a "collector's edition" $150 box for a $40 game. Add in that for single cards, the Radeon 7970ghz still is around to put price pressure on the mainstream enthusiast range, and, well.... as you said.
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FIXED!

Well, it's true though: they have your money, they don't really care now wink.gif. No need for attacks rolleyes.gif.
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Now you come up with 25% better performance tongue.gifsmile.gif

It's pretty obvious based on specs compared to Titan, and the Metro Last Light bench leak from guru3d that showed the 780 (in that test) as under 10% slower than the Titan.
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Now you come up with 25% better performance tongue.gifsmile.gif


You said GTX 770.  I'm talking about GTX 780. wink.gif

 

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770 is the same as 680 just with higher clocks. Who said 30%? Quote correctly at least. 20-30% better performance, not 30% (but clock-for-clock if will be 30%). We can't know for sure. 770 with it's castrated memory bus will drop behind even more with AA enabled, just like with 6xx series.
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Why is everyone forgetting that AMD still exists?  Who is going to pay $699 for a GTX 780 when you can get a HD 7970GE for under $450?  Why would anyone pay 55% more for a mainstream card that has the same amount of VRAM and maybe 25% better performance?

That's still not adequate for an example.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131468

By two of those, 650 and call it better. Sure you have a slightly higher power bill, most people spending that money probably don't care.

Another thing I forgot to mention, the titan is probably next year's flag ship. Or something equal too, so the R&D in next year is pretty much done already. They could be releasing a product line that would completely destroy what AMD offers and at a reasonable price. Why not you say? They can take the profits now, be in the green, dump the profits into R&D for the gen after.

Plus, once the 780 hits the 680 isn't going to be made anymore. It'll be in stock, that stock is whatever's left in warehouse. They want that stock gone, they already made money on that stock. Companies like Newegg pays for that before you buy it, omg what a concept. Money ALREADY made.... So if they want the 780 to sell well, that stock needs to be gone. How do we get rid of that stock? Oh force the 780s MSRP and have companies that are stocked in cards to lower the price. Those cards sell like hot cakes sure, Nvidia doesn't give a rats. They want companies to sell that quick, so they are forced to buy the new card.

I have no words for the ignorance of business. No words for how people don't understand the way these things work. Nvidia made it's money on the 680, it now wants to make money on the 780 and it will regardless.
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You said GTX 770.  I'm talking about GTX 780. wink.gif

You are talking about 7970 vs 780. I think 7970 will equal 770, or be a bit slower, like 5%. That still means 780 will be 20% faster than 770, by your calculation wink.gif
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It's pretty obvious based on specs compared to Titan, and the Metro Last Light bench leak from guru3d that showed the 780 (in that test) as under 10% slower than the Titan.

Think we are talking about different things tongue.gif

I agree with you on this one, like I said before I expect 780 to be <15% slower that the Titan.
Edited by Ha-Nocri - 5/21/13 at 9:26pm
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Why is everyone forgetting that AMD still exists?  Who is going to pay $699 for a GTX 780 when you can get a HD 7970GE for under $450?  Why would anyone pay 55% more for a mainstream card that has the same amount of VRAM and maybe 25% better performance?
Nvidia is releasing their 680 GHZ, only, they renamed it the 770!
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When did they break their pricing model for x80 cards recently?

GTX 280: $499 after a price drop a week post-launch
GTX 480: $499
GTX 580: $499
GTX 680: $499

8800GTX: $630
GTX 280: $650

What you're missing is that they only dropped the price because AMD dropped a bomb with the very low cost 4870. And Nvidia hasn't since then been in a situation where they had free reign over prices. They very much do like to price their big chips over $500 when they can. The reason they didn't with Fermi was that it wasn't fast enough.

Reason for fermi being $500: AMD
Reason for GTX280 price dropping: AMD
Reason for 8800GTX being $630: AMD
 
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