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[Help] G400 vs Sensei RAW. Which one should I buy?

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Well, my Imperator has just passed after 3 years of service. Since I'm moving away from Razer, I narrowed my search to these 2 mice. The first option was the G400, because it's an inexpensive mouse, but later, a lot of people started to recommend the Sensei, and since the base edition is ridicously overpriced, I sacalated down to its RAW version, but still, I'm not sure, and maybe you, people, could help me with the decision.

The primary use for the mouse will be gaming, mainly ARPG and RTS, occasionally a FPS or TPS.
I'm looking for a mouse with at least 7 buttons, with macros capabilities and must reach, at least 2500/3000 DPI.

I think that's it.

Also, I'm not acquainted with the Sensei RAW software... If someone has it, can publish some screenshots?

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I like G400 more than Sensei but it's not very good at the highest 3600 DPI setting (some jitter). G400 is fine at 1800 DPI though, if it's enough for you.
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Depends on if you prefer ergonomic or ambidextrous mice. The G400 has a better sensor, but I hate ergonomic palm-grip mice so I perform better with the Sensei Raw.
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Well, to be honest, i'm very used to the ergonomic shape of the Imperator, that's why I thought about the G400, I don't know if inestability @3600DPI will be a deal breaker... In some games I managed to reach 3500 DPI, but I will have to do more research since I'm not playing so many games as I used to.
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i have a glossy sensei raw and im buying a G400 (after playing with my friends mx518 for like 20 hours). i play dota2/sc2/diablo3.
i really like the gloss finish on the sensei though, also its got the best button clicks for a mouse i've ever used. the sensor is just fine for rts games but the ambi shape cramps my hand after a while which the g400 shape does not. wish steelseries would just throw a A3090 with the same switches in a sensei shell and call it a day. they really love this laser business lately, esp for a company that sponsors so many top tier esports teams.
Edited by discoprince - 5/18/13 at 6:06pm
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get g400. sensei has positive accel that can't be disabled
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Yeah, I read about the positive acceleration, it goes like 5% above the 40 IPS.

@Discoprince: What type of grip do you use on the mouse?
Edited by Leito360 - 5/18/13 at 9:08pm
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Originally Posted by Leito360 View Post

Yeah, I read about the positive acceleration, it goes like 5% above the 40 IPS.

@Discoprince: What type of grip do you use on the mouse?
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get g400. sensei has positive accel that can't be disabled

G400 and most optical mice have jitter at 3000+ DPI anyways due to interpolation. Also, ARPG and RTS players care about Actions per Minute and not perfect 1:1 tracking or liftoff distance like competitive FPS players. The slight negative acceleration of Avago 5700 sensor mice (such as the sensei) is more or less irrelevant to such players. The acceleration is also mitigated by using a good hard plastic mouse pad (such as steelseries own 4hd).

The Sensei should perform better at that sensitivity than the G400. The G400 will have better tracking at 1800 DPI and below. The Sensei is also a smaller mouse that many prefer because of its ergonomic shape. It is very similar to the original Microsoft Windows Optical Mouse 3.0 in shape and can be clawed, finger-tip gripped, and palmed. The G400 HAS to be palmed due to its large concave shape. The Razer Imperator, your previous mouse, is actually Razer's response to the popularity of the G400's shape (which has been used by logitech many times over).

In mice, ergonomics is generally king unless you play FPS in which case absolute 1:1 tracking comes close as a metric to grade mice. In your case, I would suggest you try out the shape of the sensei first and see if you don't prefer it to the palm grip of the G400. If the ergonomics are fine to you, I think, given your criteria, the sensei raw is the better choice.
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G400 and most optical mice have jitter at 3000+ DPI anyways due to interpolation. Also, ARPG and RTS players care about Actions per Minute and not perfect 1:1 tracking or liftoff distance like competitive FPS players. The slight negative acceleration of Avago 5700 sensor mice (such as the sensei) is more or less irrelevant to such players. The acceleration is also mitigated by using a good hard plastic mouse pad (such as steelseries own 4hd).

The Sensei should perform better at that sensitivity than the G400. The G400 will have better tracking at 1800 DPI and below. The Sensei is also a smaller mouse that many prefer because of its ergonomic shape. It is very similar to the original Microsoft Windows Optical Mouse 3.0 in shape and can be clawed, finger-tip gripped, and palmed. The G400 HAS to be palmed due to its large concave shape. The Razer Imperator, your previous mouse, is actually Razer's response to the popularity of the G400's shape (which has been used by logitech many times over).

In mice, ergonomics is generally king unless you play FPS in which case absolute 1:1 tracking comes close as a metric to grade mice. In your case, I would suggest you try out the shape of the sensei first and see if you don't prefer it to the palm grip of the G400. If the ergonomics are fine to you, I think, given your criteria, the sensei raw is the better choice.
I'm sorry, but some of your information is just flat out false. The Sensei uses the Avago 9500 sensor, which has 5% positive accleration. It is also not a small mouse at all; in fact it's one of the larger mice available and it is ambidextrous, not ergonomic.

Not to mention, it's "Wheel" Mouse Optical and the number is 1.1 or 1.1a.
post #10 of 20
Between the two I recommend the G400 because of the sensor mainly. I love the shape of my Sensei much more than my G400 and I keep trying to adapt to the accel curve of the sensor but it just can't be done, it is simply flawed. The claim of the Sensei/Avago 9500's flawed tracking not showing up for a high sensitivity user is false, it will always feel floaty and disconnected requiring you to constantly make adjustments.

But the G400 doesn't track well at 3500DPI, it's mediocre at 1800 and it's excellent at 800. If you really need that much DPI I would see if you can deal with the acceleration of the Sensei and just return it if you find it annoying because it will have much better tracking quality (significantly less jitter or ripple) than the G400 at higher DPI.
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