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post #11 of 20
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First of all, thank you everyone for all the responses.

yeah... the Sensei is kinda large, is like 125mm in length, which is OK, because the Imperator is around that number.

Regarding the DPI, I'm used to use 2000 DPI @125Hz for 24/7 use, and depending on the game, if it's an ARPG I go to 2500@1000Hz. I was used to play BF3 with those settings as well, and almost every other FPS.

And some games, especially console ports using UE, like Spec Ops, have a terrible mouse tracking coding, so for them, I had to go over 3000, if I recall correctly.

If the G400 has tracking issues, maybe it's not the mouse i'm looking for. Also, Is it true that the cord is kinda crappy and breaks easily?
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post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Leito360 View Post

First of all, thank you everyone for all the responses.

yeah... the Sensei is kinda large, is like 125mm in length, which is OK, because the Imperator is around that number.

Regarding the DPI, I'm used to use 2000 DPI @125Hz for 24/7 use, and depending on the game, if it's an ARPG I go to 2500@1000Hz. I was used to play BF3 with those settings as well, and almost every other FPS.

And some games, especially console ports using UE, like Spec Ops, have a terrible mouse tracking coding, so for them, I had to go over 3000, if I recall correctly.

If the G400 has tracking issues, maybe it's not the mouse i'm looking for. Also, Is it true that the cord is kinda crappy and breaks easily?

Well there aren't many options at the moment (which sucks yes :/ ). I haven't checked but in case you're using a hard mousepad your best bet might be to stay with a PTE mouse like the Imperator BUT instead of this one to go with one of the few that have no dynamic DPI scaling (like the original non-2012 Mamba with fw version 1.06).

The Sensei has an awesome shape but its sensor has weird tracking as mentioned before and ADNS-3090 mice like the g400 could be jittery at the higher DPI settings (which you seem to prefer). The PTE mice should give you no issues and will be precises as hell as long as you get one that has no dynamic DPI scaling activated and use it on a hard surface. Unfortunately there aren't many to choose from and most have awful and big shapes.
post #13 of 20
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Right now I'm using a Qck+... so it seems i'm against all the odds xD

Wouldn't be the construction quality of Razer an issue at the moment?

Regarding the PTE, I have no trouble using it at all, and it has my highest esteem, since I never lift up the mouse, I never experienced the z-axis issue 'unintentionally'.
Edited by Leito360 - 5/19/13 at 12:07pm
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post #14 of 20
Another Imperator...

Or get a g400 and adapt to a lower sensitivity, shouldn't do harm
post #15 of 20
The lifting issue with the PTE is really quite a non-issue. I used it to demonstrate some years ago to that it does track on the z-axis though. But when you're gaming you lift your mouse to reposition it (to the center of the pad), meaning you haven't aimed at anything yet anyway. So what does a little disposition matter anyway? Not to mention that you really can't lift any mouse without causing the cursor to move a little due to your hand moving. So really... people misinterpreted the whole z-axis thing.

The problems it does cause though is that on a soft surface it might sink into it when you apply pressure on the mouse (like clicking the buttons), and when it sinks into the surface the distance between it and the sensor gets smaller, meaning that the sensor tracks this movement. With repeated and fast clicks this causes the cursor to jitter which can really drive one crazy. But again... this only happens on soft surfaces. The dynamic DPI scaling they introduced to reduce the jitter on the other hand is nothing else than acceleration. The slower you move the mouse, the lower the DPI is automatically set so that the jitter isn't noticeable. This of course sucks because it destroys your precision. It's also why I didn't recommend the Imperator.
post #16 of 20
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The lifting issue with the PTE is really quite a non-issue. I used it to demonstrate some years ago to that it does track on the z-axis though. But when you're gaming you lift your mouse to reposition it (to the center of the pad), meaning you haven't aimed at anything yet anyway. So what does a little disposition matter anyway? Not to mention that you really can't lift any mouse without causing the cursor to move a little due to your hand moving. So really... people misinterpreted the whole z-axis thing.

Indeed. The z-axis tracking is nothing compared to the fact, that the pte plays dead if you lift off /reposition fast or often enough. I find this much much more annoying. mad.gif
post #17 of 20
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The Imperator was a flawless mouse for me and my style of use, but since some buttons broke down, I ripped apart and saw the building quality Razer has, so I'm moving away from it. I mean, there's is no good relation price/quality.

Maybe my best shot is to go for a Sensei Raw and try to get used to its shape.
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post #18 of 20
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The Imperator was a flawless mouse for me and my style of use, but since some buttons broke down, I ripped apart and saw the building quality Razer has, so I'm moving away from it. I mean, there's is no good relation price/quality.

Maybe my best shot is to go for a Sensei Raw and try to get used to its shape.
The Sensei Raw is fantastic, I have the rubber version and I don't notice any acceleration even if it is there.
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post #19 of 20
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Yeah, I read about the positive acceleration, it goes like 5% above the 40 IPS.

@Discoprince: What type of grip do you use on the mouse?

i claw the g400 and sensei.
i think you would be more happy with the sensei if you game at a higher dpi. get a 4hd or 9hd mousemat and you'll be good to go.
currently i use the sensei on an old dell xps hardmat thats worn smooth and the sensei tracks nicer on that then on my goliathus.
get a cloth pad for the g400 if you choose to get that. its got tiny feet and a nice soft pad will wear them down slower than a hard pad.
Edited by discoprince - 5/19/13 at 7:42pm
post #20 of 20
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Indeed. The z-axis tracking is nothing compared to the fact, that the pte plays dead if you lift off /reposition fast or often enough. I find this much much more annoying. mad.gif

Yeah I had that with the older Lachesis. This is actually just a firmware thing and should be fixed with newer ones. It happened because as you lifted the mouse off the pad and it lost tracking it tried to recalibrate itself, which is why it had a delay until it started to track again. Depending on the mouse/firmware it doesn't auto calibrate itself anymore that often which fixes this issue. wink.gif
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