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The cold cathode on is suppose to have that exposed wire, not worries there.

Didn't you test the loop before hooking up the computer. You are suppose to run the loop for a while without power going to the rest of the computer.

I would make sure the pump is flowing, because it sounds just like a flow issue.
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Originally Posted by Masta Squidge View Post

board might not be dead if the psu isnt working, didnt see if he tried another psu on the suspect board though.

And fuses dont go bang when they pop, big arcs and damaged caps do though. Especially likely to get a big arc when you are looking at an exposed lead on a cold cathode, as the voltage is somewhere between 400 and 1200v between the ballast (or whatever) and the actual light. Hell, I have seen diagrams of cold cathodes running 5kvac to the actual lighting element.

Lower current though, but much more likely to spark and make noise.

Tried the board on a good PSU, won't boot. GPU still powers the fan on the shroud when I plug it in though so I hope that's still alive.
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Try a different PS on your rig and see if stuff starts working. Test everything one by one if you have to.

IDK what brand that res you have is but you might wanna toss that aside or stop using the lights on it. Cathodes and water do not mix well. Led's are much safer to work with if bad things go wrong.

Cathodes setup the voltage so if it did short you have a lot of power going into the ground. Getting those wires wet was not a good idea.


Watercooling can be pretty safe and easy no need to go back to air, just stop using any lights like that and make sure your pump is good. Cooling value blows air away, and no more loud fan noise. thumb.gif

I mean, it's not like the res isn't some no-name thing. There's a club for it on OCN as well. http://www.overclock.net/t/1214130/ocn-frozenq-reservoir-owners-club
And as far as I know, the person who designed the res trades them on this forum.
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The cold cathode on is suppose to have that exposed wire, not worries there.

Didn't you test the loop before hooking up the computer. You are suppose to run the loop for a while without power going to the rest of the computer.

I would make sure the pump is flowing, because it sounds just like a flow issue.

I did, I ran the loop for about 6 hours and it was fine. It even booted up fine the first time, that's how I got those high temps and that's why I started the thread in the first place. But all the problems started after I tried to fix the temperature issues.
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PSU won't boot up a different computer...I guess that's dead too.

Sigh...to think that I was super excited to test my first watercooled system just a few hours ago and now everything is gone...really sucks.

Im really sorry man, fist off there is no way you should have had 90 degree temps with that setup.. One thing that may have happened is did you leave the plastic film on the back of the waterblock? secondly, I know the xspc directions for the raystorm don't show you to place the thermal paste on before you put on the waterblock, but obviously you need to... did you do this and how did you apply the waterblock.

Those are the only two reasons why you would get CPU temps like that.. Im really sorry its not working out for you, you need to be paitient and really make sure you have done everything correctly before you turn on the pump
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Im really sorry man, fist off there is no way you should have had 90 degree temps with that setup.. One thing that may have happened is did you leave the plastic film on the back of the waterblock? secondly, I know the xspc directions for the raystorm don't show you to place the thermal paste on before you put on the waterblock, but obviously you need to... did you do this and how did you apply the waterblock.

Those are the only two reasons why you would get CPU temps like that.. Im really sorry its not working out for you, you need to be paitient and really make sure you have done everything correctly before you turn on the pump

Actually the say he said his tubes were hot, he probably didn't have any or nearly no flow. His pump is most likely to blame for the heat. My CPU did the same thing his is doing when my pump broke, Block and Tubes near it get pretty damn hot until PC just turns off. I had the XSPC rez/pump and you can still plug it in and hear it hum but no water movement. The pump I had before that has a leak, which is why I got the XSPC in the first place, forcing me to get a D5.


OP did you check to make sure your GPU wasn't dripping anything into the PS?
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Im really sorry man, fist off there is no way you should have had 90 degree temps with that setup.. One thing that may have happened is did you leave the plastic film on the back of the waterblock? secondly, I know the xspc directions for the raystorm don't show you to place the thermal paste on before you put on the waterblock, but obviously you need to... did you do this and how did you apply the waterblock.

Those are the only two reasons why you would get CPU temps like that.. Im really sorry its not working out for you, you need to be paitient and really make sure you have done everything correctly before you turn on the pump

Yes I specifically remembered to check for the film since that's what everyone says on the forums. And yes I did put TIM.
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Actually the say he said his tubes were hot, he probably didn't have any or nearly no flow. His pump is most likely to blame for the heat. My CPU did the same thing his is doing when my pump broke, Block and Tubes near it get pretty damn hot until PC just turns off. I had the XSPC rez/pump and you can still plug it in and hear it hum but no water movement. The pump I had before that has a leak, which is why I got the XSPC in the first place, forcing me to get a D5.

OP did you check to make sure your GPU wasn't dripping anything into the PS?

Yeah, over the 6-8 hour bleed test I checked multiple times for areas of dampness. Everything was definitely working when I first set it up or else it wouldn't have booted at all. It must have been when I was trying to solve the temperature issues and the reservoir overflowed and things just when downhill from there.
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Really sorry to hear this frown.gif

As many others suggest, It seams the water flow was too weak..
  • Pump too weak
  • major air bubbles in the system
  • Pump damaged

When you first powered on the pump, was the feeding tube / res filled with water?
-->[Res]-->["feeding" tube]-->[pump]-->
Most pumps will take damage from even a few seconds without water. Even feeding the pump bubbles might kill or damage it

1: make sure ress->tube->pump is filled with water
2: *jump the PSU for a few seconds till ress is about empty (NEVER completely empty)
3: fill ress
4: repeat till water comes back in the ress
5: bleed air for a few hours or till no more bubbles comes out (as you did)
6: power on the system and make sure water is flowing while monitoring temps in BIOS
*by jumping the PSU: we mean:

without anything attached to the PSU other then the water pump

Sadly it sounds like its too late to guide you through this :'(

As for the "bang" and the none working parts:
I might have missed this, but did you try hooking the system up with another PSU?

1: go back to air on CPU / GPU for now
2: disconnect all unnecessary components (CD/DVD/BRay, any mod lights, controllers, sound cards etc etc..)
Leaving you with: CPU, 1xRam block, 1xGPU, keyboard, 8pin CPU power, 24pin ATX power and power switch
3: reset BIOS (It may stop you from booting due to PSU shortage)
4: Power on the system

Best of luck
^GaMbi

*Edit*
Also, checking the 24pin ATX for burns might give a clue about damage to the motherboard / other components
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