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So I followed the guide to downsampling. and it worked like a charm. Played a test run of metro last light and it did look better. So my question is, is this it? Do I no longer need to buy a 1440p monitor? (Unless of course I want more real estate) Is it really that simple to save a few hundred bucks? Or are the true 1440p monitors displaying it different or something? Sorry new to downsampling, and it just seemed to easy.
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So I followed the guide to downsampling. and it worked like a charm. Played a test run of metro last light and it did look better. So my question is, is this it? Do I no longer need to buy a 1440p monitor? (Unless of course I want more real estate) Is it really that simple to save a few hundred bucks? Or are the true 1440p monitors displaying it different or something? Sorry new to downsampling, and it just seemed to easy.


I'm not sure why downsampling confuses people into thinking that they have the same experience that they will have on a 1440p monitor, but it is far from it. With a 1080P monitor, you have just over 2 million pixels on your screen. With a 2560 x 1440 monitor, you have just under 3.7 million pixels, which is quite a bit more. Downsampling can only help get rid of some graphical artifacts like aliasing; it doesn't magically give you more pixels. Your level of detail is still going to be the same as with the game set to 1080p, since you still only have 2 million pixels to work with.
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So I followed the guide to downsampling. and it worked like a charm. Played a test run of metro last light and it did look better. So my question is, is this it? Do I no longer need to buy a 1440p monitor? (Unless of course I want more real estate) Is it really that simple to save a few hundred bucks? Or are the true 1440p monitors displaying it different or something? Sorry new to downsampling, and it just seemed to easy.
The only reason to do this would be to force results that are basically custom AA levels in games where you don't have very much option other than on/off.

It has absolutely nothing to do with simulating a 1440p experience, or getting better graphics (other than the "artificial" AA).
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If you really want to see what 1440p is capable of, just buy a 1440p monitor, it's quite different from downsampling since with downsampling it's basically SSAA.
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I was confused because when I enabled it my desktop got smaller (text, icons, and everything else) So I thought cool 1440p experience. Even in games everything seemed sharper not just with AA. So thats what confused me. I guess my ultimate question is what will buying a 1440p monitor actually do for game graphics that downsampling isn't already doing.
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I was confused because when I enabled it my desktop got smaller (text, icons, and everything else) So I thought cool 1440p experience. Even in games everything seemed sharper not just with AA. So thats what confused me. I guess my ultimate question is what will buying a 1440p monitor actually do for game graphics that downsampling isn't already doing.
Games will look bigger(taller and wider) on a 1440p display than a 1080p one.
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Games will look bigger(taller and wider) on a 1440p display than a 1080p one.

Another dumb question....couldent I just buy a 27inch 1080p monitor over a 27inch 1440p moniotr and save my self the FPS hit? If making it bigger and wider is the only gain?
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I was confused because when I enabled it my desktop got smaller (text, icons, and everything else) So I thought cool 1440p experience. Even in games everything seemed sharper not just with AA. So thats what confused me. I guess my ultimate question is what will buying a 1440p monitor actually do for game graphics that downsampling isn't already doing.

You aren't actually getting ANY more detail with downsampling. As others have said, downsampling is essentially the same as super sample anti aliasing. AA will make an image look "sharper" because the edges aren't as jaggy, but there is still the same amount of detail in the image. A 2560 x 1440 monitor gives you 70% more pixels, which means there is a noticeable increase in detail over a 1920 x 1080 display.

You can set your desktop icons to whatever size you want, even at 1080p. The icon size is tied to the resolution by default, but you can resize them for more real estate if you want.
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Games will look bigger(taller and wider) on a 1440p display than a 1080p one.

Actually that is determined by the aspect ratio rather than resolution. You'll get the same field of view (amount of game world) on a 1440p display but all of the textures and things will be more detailed.
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