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Hi guys, im looking for someone extremely experienced with case modding or someone who happens to have a corsair 350d to do a little theory crafting.

Before I proceed please excuse the really bad pictures as I'm only doing this off an old tablet.mad.gif

I'm after a matx case that is able to house a 360mm radiator in the front, which is a lot to ask. I know that the fractal arc mini is a decent case to water cool and can fit a 240mm in the front and 240mm in the roof, but is just shy of being able to fit a 360mm in the front. the idea behind this is that if a 360mm is in the front, it can water cool the cpu and gpu. whilst being able to hold a bitspower tube multi res with the 120mm optional bracket bolted on the middle rad fan, feeding directly to the pump mounted under it.

the arc mini is 405mm high vs the 350d being 436, I think this is just due to design difference, but the 350d does have 5 expansion slots vs the 4 on the arc mini. The problem is identifying the true internal dimension of the 350d, whilst it may be 436mm high this most likely also includes the space that the case feet raise it from the ground which is an unknown dimension. if anyone has seen tiny tom logans fitting of the 360mm rad in the corsair 200r case, this is what I am looking at.

now 3x5.25" drive bays can be converted to a 120mm fan but the 350d only has 2x5.25" bays, but that being said the 2 fans that bolt in the bottom of the front of the 350d also support 2x 140mm fans which may give a few millimeters of extra height. Most case fans are slightly risen off the floor (dont start right at the bottom of the case). so the internal measurement from the floor to the roof is going to be a hit or miss by a few millimeters. Even if the case feet made up 30mm of the 436mm dimension, I'm still left with 406mm minus 1-2mm . an alphacool 360mm rad is 400mm in total height, but it does have a bottom drain port which adds a few millimeters. Other rads can be sourced that have 397mm total height because in a spot like this every millimeter is going to count. So with a 400mm alphacool rad I'm left with 6mm of tolerance which is enough to make or break this completely.





Anyone have any clue if this would just work, or another broken dream?
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Hi,

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I'm interested in this one too biggrin.gif

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My answer is going to be no.

I threw the entire image into PS, and and then used ruler and distort it till all four sides were straight. I cropped out the excess, then devided the image pixel height by it's actual height. Using a calculator, I drew lines at 50mm intervals, and then offsetted them by a few pixels beneath the top of the case to account for sheet metal thickness. The resulting image shows the interior body of the 350D just barely over 400mm tall, somewhere 402-403mm estimate.

The rad is 400mm long, but it has two stop plugs on both ends, contributing 8mm total to the total length. This is impossible to fit on the 350D, because even if you were to cut holes for the drain plug, you wouldn't be able to insert it diagonally then upright it into the case because the lips at the top and bottom. Having a 360 on the front also means removing the 5.25, SSD bays, and 3.5 bays. You're then going to run into a problem of the front panel USB/power switch, which is its own PCB at the very top and a slew of cables, and that is not removable.

I think I've done some previous mockups of the 350D with rads in the front, and the max clearance you have is 64mm at the front, at most. Shifting the 3.5 bays back a bit, your PSU still needs clearance lengthwise for the cables. It'll be a very tight fit. At most you'll get is a 240mm 37mm~ rad, which then you'll still have to notch the bottom of the 5.25" bays and gut out most of the existing 120mm mounts. A 240 rad is actually 270mm long.

You're going to need to move up to a bigger case.

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Thanks for that I just got excited because this was quiet a large matx case and though it might just fit. Think I might go and put a 360 in the front of a white storm scout 2. The handle on the scout 2 is an added bonus for me too.thumb.gif
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What do you guys think of putting the 360 on the bottom of the case? You could mount the PSU vertically in the front facing down, assuming you've removed the 3.5 in. and 2.5in drive bays. If you use an SSD you can stick it literally anywhere (on the side of the PSU). My 350D is arriving in about 5 days, and I can do any measurements you want, because I'm interested in doing a custom loop in here as well. Check out this thread I started a little while ago: http://www.overclock.net/t/1387576/corsair-350d-mod-watercooled
     
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The main problem seemed to be airflow, but I thinked I worked it out pretty well. Just filter the bottom, and cut some vents in the bottom (nobody see's it anyway), and then have your push pull intake on bottom, and you exhaust on top! since you have a 360 on bottom and only a 240 on top, that will give positive pressure, which is good.
     
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Hey everyone, I just got my 350D a month ago and have been working on a 360mm rad option in it ever since.

All of the forums I find are looking at placing it in the front of the case, which is a good option, but I want to turn your attention to the top of the case. You have about 450mm of room up there. If you take away the front bezel portion, it still leaves you with about 415mm! Which is plenty for any 360mm rad under 400mm. I.E. - Koolance, AlphaCool, EK, etc.

I have to get the pictures uploaded, but I have managed to get a 360mm Koolance rad to fit up top. Just FYI though, if you go with a flush mount design, you will not be able to use either 5.25in bay (which with the way you were approaching it, might not be an issue anyways), but if you use a Koolance 360mm rad shroud to pull the fans up above the case (inside the shroud), you are able to pull the rad up far enough for either have push/pull, 55mm thick rad, or a useable 5.25in drive bay.

Just wanted to drop in and let everyone know that it is physically possible to have a 360mm rad in a 350D.
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