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Basically it works when it feels like it, It works well when it does and I've tried swapping out the usual components including the processor and it makes no difference, brand new PSU as well just in case, again no difference.

I could get one of ebay from the states, but do I really want to spend that sort of money on this current setup.

I'm not bothered about benchmarks, don't really play many games, so I don't need the usual Intel vs AMD gaming argument, I could wait for Haswell, but then I was an "early adopter" with X58 and had quite a few teething troubles with my board, so I'm a bit dubious this time round, as it may well take a few months for things to settle down, which doesn't help me as I need something fairly quick.

I mainly work with Photoshop, do some video editing etc.

Funds are a bit tight as we've had some work done on the house so there's not a lot left in the pot.

With the budget I have, the AMD FX8350 990fx setup is looking the most promising, I know it's classed as a sidegrade compared to an i7 but I would like to hear from people with this processor and what it's "real world" performance is like.

I know I could go i7 skt 1055, but then I could also go i7 2011 but the crucial point is I would like my vital organs intact, so I only have my limited budget of around £300.

Please don't turn this into an Intel vs AMD flame war.
Edited by jonthehack - 5/19/13 at 2:21am
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What problems are you experiencing with your current setup?
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Swapping pieces is not going to fix the problem, you have to find the true source of the problem and to eliminate pieces by pieces until all the hardware is tagged as good and then move to the software, what is your actual setup ? Be extremely precise if possible, not only of the hardware but of the software (OS etc.)
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Basically it works when it feels like it, It works well when it does and I've tried swapping out the usual components including the processor and it makes no difference, brand new PSU as well just in case, again no difference.

You have replaced the CPU already? Can you list what you have actually done and whats actually wrong. Computers don't "work when they feel like it" there will be something specific gone wrong. If you can isolate that then you can save yourself 300 quid on a sidegrade.
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Exactly WR6133,

Thanks for pointing out all this as well
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From a "Cold Start" it doesn't initially POST, then reboots itself about 3 times before it will POST, and when it finally boots into the OS, it will reboot again after a few minutes then it seems to be ok.

Motherboard is a ASUS P6X58D PREMIUM, it's flashed to the latest BIOS, I've tried Dual/Triple configurations with 3 different sets of RAM, which are on the ASUS QVL list, changed the voltages, manually done the ram/cpu settings and timings.

My friend has an identical motherboard, his works fine with the same configurations we tried with mine including my processor and regardless of what we try with mine, it's pointing at the problem being the motherboard, we've even put my board into his case and it does exactly the same.

I think after trying all that it's safe to say it's a duff board, it is almost 4 years old so it's not done bad and I think I got my moneys worth.

So as to my original question, I've resigned to the fact it needs replacing, just need a some views on the processor I'm looking at.
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Ok just so you are aware though you could pick up replacement motherboard on Ebay

Failing that with £300 for mobo + CPU

Intel Core i7-3770
http://www.cclonline.com/product/73990/BX80637I73770/CPUs/Intel-Core-i7-3770-3-4GHz-Quad-Core-Processor-8MB-L3-Cache-5GT/s-Bus-Speed-Boxed-/CPU0103/

Gigabyte GA-B75-D3V Socket 1155 ATX Motherboard
http://www.cclonline.com/product/78344/GA-B75-D3V/Motherboards/Gigabyte-GA-B75-D3V-Motherboard/MBD0363/

Totals about £300

or

AMD FX-8320
http://www.cclonline.com/product/93470/FD8320FRHKBOX/CPUs/AMD-FX-8320-Eight-Core-CPU/CPU0154/

Gigabyte 970A-UD3 AMD Socket AM3 ATX Motherboard
http://www.cclonline.com/product/63466/GA-970A-UD3/Motherboards/Gigabyte-970A-UD3-Motherboard-Socket-AMD-970-SB950-DDR3-SATA-RAID-ATX-Gigabit-Ethernet-LAN-rev-1-0-/MBD0198/

Totals just under £200

Performance wise look here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=551 the i7 is considerably ahead in the benches however is it £100 ahead? I guess your not doing this editing and PS at a pro level (or we wouldn't be looking at this hardware) so I would be inclined to say save £100 and go with the AMD.

You can overclock the AMD CPU to try to catch up with the Intel. It won't catch up but it will gain some ground (anyone that comes here telling you it will do 5GHz stable on a whisker of voltage and equal an i7 is simply a tosser).

The Intel CPU I listed above can't be overclocked that would require the 3770K and a z77 board which would drive over your budget. However you could manage an i5 3570k with a z77. Benched at stock speeds it still largely beats the 8320..... see here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=701 . A Z77 and 3570K combo should set you back around £260 so again you need to consider its performance and ask yourself is that worth the extra £60 too you.
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Thanks WR6133, this gives me something better to work with.
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Gigabyte UD3H : 140$

Intel i5 3570K : 210$

A grand total of 350$, not that bad considering your problem.

Also a simple motherboard replacement would do the trick, this investment would last longer IMO, it will depend of the money you are able to spend. You could check Asrock or Msi they've not so bad Z77 mobo in the 150$ price range.
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