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Poll Results: Will you continue to use Ubuntu if they keep this up.

 
  • 16% (7)
    Yes, I do not care about my privacy
  • 11% (5)
    No, This really is ergregious
  • 72% (31)
    Who the hell uses ubuntu anyway? Not Me.
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Me choosing to use Ubuntu or closed software is my freedom.

Classic Stallman.
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Trust me if it was a troll i would have picked a different method to troll. the bottom line is. even if you CAN turn it off. you shouldnt have too. weather you like stallman or not. what he says in that video is true and to the point. the fact that so many people are quick to suggest ubuntu as a new user distro is also what makes it alarming because most of those people have no clue about whats happening or how to turn off those features. and personally the idea of someone scoffing at it because they can turn it off is kinda of scary too. it shouldnt even be in the code.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Im just sharing some facts that may or may not be old to some people. I assure you this is still news to a lot of novice users.

While I agree its utter BS that Ubuntu has allowed this kind of influence in their software, I can't blame them; something that has that much of a development team needs funding from somewhere, and donations usually don't cut it. I can also see an easy solution to the problem - a checkbox. Just like the ones they use for proprietary codecs (MP3, etc..) have it checked by default - but have the option to disable it at install. This keeps everyone happy. If you don't care, or enjoy the feature - leave it checked. If you do care, are paranoid, or find it annoying - uncheck it.

I hate being a software developer with extensive end-user experience, things like this seem blatantly obvious. IT SHOULD BE AN OPTION IN THE FIRST PLACE. PERIOD. The lack of focus on end-user experience in modern software development blows my freaking mind. Case in point: tutorial levels in video games - the ones you can't skip or disable via some menu option. WHO IN THE WORLD DECIDED THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA? Replay value of your game: 0. I'm not going to sit through your stupid tutorial again.

 

I see your point. However Ubuntu knew what it was when they got started. Being open source is just that open source its a community contributing to the betterment of that community. Ubuntu does not need funding for their developers. they chose to pay for them if indeed they do pay them ( am not sure if they do or do not). just as microsoft and apple pays for theirs. I honestly feel that if they wish to make money they can do it many other ways. impressions on their web site alone with the amount of hits they receive daily probably nets them a good chunk. let alone many other ways they have to grow their wealth. What is really truly concerning is this is just a first step. it starts here but where will it end.

 

In regards to the it should be an option in the first place. Yes i agree it should be an option. that you install from a separate package that you willingly have to go get and configure. I do not think it should be in the base code period.

you ask who in the world decided it was a good idea. to have forced  tutorial levels in video games. well some of the people in this thread that think the way they do about this "feature" of ubuntu is who. and its because no one stood up against them and said no its wrong. we wont support that. that it happened. of course i believe a lot of people did stand again that after getting tired enough of it. and thats why you don't see it happening so much.

    
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The argument about them not doing it, or ignoring people standing up to them. It's kind of hard for them to follow the classic Linux/GNU model. They are competing against giants for a retail market. MS/Apple aren't exactly pushovers, so you might have to do things that your old user base might not fully enjoy. They are trying to push in ways that Linux hasn't done before, while the whole time being very successful at it.

Really, the old model of how Linux/GNU is done hasn't gotten any major retail products to last. Nobody has gotten there. In all these years, what company put a face on Linux? Google sort of did that but Ubuntu has literally put a face to Linux. We can't continue to argue and stick to a classic model, where that has obviously gotten us nowhere. While I agree, as a default it isn't setting a good example. The thing is, at this point they aren't out to set an example for other Linux developers. They are trying to find themselves in a commercial market, with players much bigger than they are.
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Really, the old model of how Linux/GNU is done hasn't gotten any major retail products to last. Nobody has gotten there. In all these years, what company put a face on Linux? Google sort of did that but Ubuntu has literally put a face to Linux. We can't continue to argue and stick to a classic model, where that has obviously gotten us nowhere. While I agree, as a default it isn't setting a good example. The thing is, at this point they aren't out to set an example for other Linux developers. They are trying to find themselves in a commercial market, with players much bigger than they are.



I know I said I thought this whole thread was pointless, but couldn't resist.
post #25 of 71
Since this thread is pointless anyway, I suggest we should all run OS X as that's the only distro of Linux that doesn't totally suck.


































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post #28 of 71
Hahaha, but I like thumbs so much better! drunken.gif
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I know I said I thought this whole thread was pointless, but couldn't resist.

You know what I ment! Try asking people on the street, I'm sure more people know Ubuntu over RH but you are right. RH was probably the first big commercial solution, I was just think of a face in terms of mainstream. =P
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I know I said I thought this whole thread was pointless, but couldn't resist.

You know what I ment! Try asking people on the street, I'm sure more people know Ubuntu over RH but you are right. RH was probably the first big commercial solution, I was just think of a face in terms of mainstream. =P

layman maybe. Anyone in the IT world has far more knowledge and respect for Red Hat. The point is that if the product is good enough, people will buy. In Red Hat's case they buy for the services and support, or otherwise use CentOS. Ubuntu has a likewise deal, if they were really good enough to compete with Red Hat they would be generating money from services then from adware. It is completely possible for a company to make money on open source with out what Ubuntu is doing (Unity, Mir, amazon)
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