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Poll Results: Will you continue to use Ubuntu if they keep this up.

 
  • 16% (7)
    Yes, I do not care about my privacy
  • 11% (5)
    No, This really is ergregious
  • 72% (31)
    Who the hell uses ubuntu anyway? Not Me.
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post #61 of 71
I heart.gif Linus Torvalds (no homo)

We even share the same birthday, although there's quite a few years between us tongue.gif
     
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Absolutely not. It's his uncompromising (to the nth degree) views that already make people listen to him. If he had a half-assed "it would be swell if you guys respected users' freedom" attitude then he would not be repeatedly in the news and interviews. Compromising views make one appear just as weak as everyone else, so why would such a person be worth a headline? This thread wouldn't even be here if Stallman was just like all the rest.

Stallman is very right to be concerned about this feature. Even Microsoft hasn't gone so far as to openly share data collected from your OS usage with a 3rd party (although they do collect some data for themselves as part of the activation process) without your explicit consent. The setup process for Win 8 presents you with clear options to consent to the sharing of your data, and from memory it's disabled by default. Canonical shares by default and puts the details in a privacy policy.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

http://www.howtogeek.com/123938/htg-explains-how-the-smartscreen-filter-works-in-windows-8/

I wonder what other people haven't found? To think MS is above this, that's laughable. So far just about every software vendor of that scale has done this, in one way or another. They might have tuned things down, officially said they turned it off, thing is they have done so.
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

http://www.howtogeek.com/123938/htg-explains-how-the-smartscreen-filter-works-in-windows-8/

I wonder what other people haven't found? To think MS is above this, that's laughable. So far just about every software vendor of that scale has done this, in one way or another. They might have tuned things down, officially said they turned it off, thing is they have done so.

Very much so. MS, Google, Apple... really any decently large company has harvested information and sold it at one point ( or at least "lost" or "misplaced" it ). To think otherwise is just exactly that, laughable. Most have at least one point in their time, forced privacy invasion features on users.
post #64 of 71
I remember all that phone nonsense, you know what I'm talking about.... "We aren't collecting data to 3rd parties for collection" Then some random excuse was given as to why they collected so much data. Either it was found later that they were, or leaked, eventually we find out it happens. I didn't actually link MS to selling data, so in case you aren't quite sure.

http://rt.com/usa/yahoo-microsoft-campaign-political-862/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/business/company-envisions-vaults-for-personal-data.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

So where does it stop? Is that their only bidder?

Thing is, we don't really know what data is being collected or by whom. So don't be shocked at this, or really that angry. You have an arsenal of software to protect yourself and your identity. If you chose to not to take precautions, well it's like a white man walking down the south side of Detroit. You should know better.
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

http://www.howtogeek.com/123938/htg-explains-how-the-smartscreen-filter-works-in-windows-8/

I wonder what other people haven't found? To think MS is above this, that's laughable. So far just about every software vendor of that scale has done this, in one way or another. They might have tuned things down, officially said they turned it off, thing is they have done so.

Wow .worriedsmiley.gif

I never knew about them. +rep
post #66 of 71
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I remember all that phone nonsense, you know what I'm talking about.... "We aren't collecting data to 3rd parties for collection" Then some random excuse was given as to why they collected so much data. Either it was found later that they were, or leaked, eventually we find out it happens. I didn't actually link MS to selling data, so in case you aren't quite sure.

http://rt.com/usa/yahoo-microsoft-campaign-political-862/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/business/company-envisions-vaults-for-personal-data.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

So where does it stop? Is that their only bidder?

Thing is, we don't really know what data is being collected or by whom. So don't be shocked at this, or really that angry. You have an arsenal of software to protect yourself and your identity. If you chose to not to take precautions, well it's like a white man walking down the south side of Detroit. You should know better.

This is why I host my own services. I know sometimes I can sound like a tin-hat wearer - but at least I'm in control of my data smile.gif
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On this topic of privacy invasion for data mining....considering how much information that is out there and collected and stored in disconnected databases...unless one is really important wouldn't they just be lost in the plethora of data regardless of how great the organization of said data is? I mean...you can't exactly find something (quickly) if you don't know to look for it. The other thing is what good is information like our names and such to a business? Wouldn't they be more interested in gender, age, etc. demographics so they can determine what group buys what and how to target that group? I mean the only organizations I see that would really care about names is either a criminal one, something in the health care world, and the government. By the way...I'll see if I can find it but I thought that the FBI had forced MS into allowing them access into Skype information of all users some time ago? And we're upset about Ubuntu including by default an Amazon data mining feature that can be disabled? I mean it's not great...but we still have choice.
     
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On this topic of privacy invasion for data mining....considering how much information that is out there and collected and stored in disconnected databases...unless one is really important wouldn't they just be lost in the plethora of data regardless of how great the organization of said data is?

The problem with that is that people have been caught out before.
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misunderstood and deleted post thumb.gif
Edited by ladcrooks - 5/23/13 at 11:52pm
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I don't troll and I made a point of saying sorry - not much more I can do . I guess your a born again christian who has never made a mistake in your whole life rolleyes.gif
Your apology was on a different page so didn't see it until after i'd posted. smile.gif
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