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I decided to abandon my old thread as it is a confusing read because I kept changing my plan throughout.

Current specs:
E6600 Conroe @3.2ghz
Asus p5n32e-sli plus
thermaltake toughpower 700w
8gb generic DDR2-800 crucial ram
Asus 5850 directcu

My original intent was I wanted to get an i7 4770k and upgrade once haswell drops. The only issue was is that I am very very curious to see what steam roller brings to the table. If steamroller looks to be a solid processor, I will get that instead as opposed to intel. My e6600 is so old though that it is maxed out in newer games and is bottlenecking me. I cant hardly wait any longer and want to dump what I have now.

My new plan is to do a cheaper interim upgrade and get a FX-6350 or FX-6300 to get me by till at least the end of the year. If this processor turns out to be decent enough, I might keep it for another year so I can wait for the prices of steamroller/whatever intel has at that time to drop a bit. At that point I will sell off whatever I buy now and then go big with an upgrade(plan is to keep whatever I get at this point for 5-6 years like I did my current system). I am thinking this is a good plan because I have zero plans to upgrade my 5850 till atleast sometime in 2014. I figure I might as well remove my current bottleneck and then be able to save for better future products?

The only parts I will replace are processor/mobo/ram. I will re-use everything else.

I am trying to keep this as cheap as possible. The processor is currently on sale until the 21st; so if I don't come to a conclusion by then I will just order this build piece by piece. I want to keep the total price to around 290 tops if possible.

Here is what I am thinking right now:

Processor: FX-6300($119), or FX-6350(129)
Mobo: If I decide to forgo crossfire support, I have many cheap options. A good cheapie with no crossfire looks to be the GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3. It is currently on $15 off and I can use a promo code to knock off another $10(this code ends today). It looks like I could even overclock with this board?
RAM: This I am unsure about, all I a familiar with is DDR2 stuff. I am thinking that on one hand I could get the cheapest 8 gig kit. Or I could get some faster ram that I could re-use in a future build.

Here is a build I came up with


You cannot see, but there are two 10 dollar off promo codes I entered show off screen. The grand total with tax comes out to $291. Or if I swapped out the gigabyte for a ASRock 990FX Extreme3 I could have possibly better overclocking abilities and crossfire support. But this brings my grand total up to $335, which is much more than I want to spend.

What do you guys think?
Edited by timaishu - 5/19/13 at 11:28am
post #2 of 22
You're keeping the rest of your rig? Getting a new PSU might not be a bad idea depending on how long you've had your last one. Of course I would suggest trying to get as much that can carry over once Haswell comes out but with a new chipset you want to get everything cheap like you currently are doing. If initial reviews are good on Haswell, I'd suggest getting as soon as you can as resale$ is only going to go down!

I would only get DDR3 RAM ready for your haswell or beyond build, no point in buying old/outdated RAM for a year. I personally like these if you can get your hands on them.

I don't know how much you OC if at all, because if you are getting a nonstock cooler for your Haswell processor, you'll want to take into account the amount of space you have for RAM (nothing too big)
Edited by benpack101 - 5/19/13 at 11:25am
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You're keeping the rest of your rig? Getting a new PSU might not be a bad idea depending on how long you've had your last one. Of course I would suggest trying to get as much that can carry over once Haswell comes out but with a new chipset you want to get everything cheap like you currently are doing. If initial reviews are good on Haswell, I'd suggest getting as soon as you can as resale$ is only going to go down!

I would only get DDR3 RAM ready for your haswell or beyond build, no point in buying old/outdated RAM for a year.

Pretty much all that
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I have no real problems with it. Power Supply might be an issue (per benpack101). Got something against used items? I would get an used MB and spend the extra on RAM..... if your sure your going Intel next year.
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I plan on keeping the psu. It has about 4.5 years of use on it(brother and I had the same model, he upgraded in 2011, so I swapped mine for his).

I also just realized the ram I picked out is a single 8 gig stick. Doesn't look to be supported by that motherboard. Looks like I can get some XMS sticks for 10 bucks more that should work. But again, I would like to get decent ram for the future so I don't have to rebuy it. Any recommendations?

I also edited my post for clarification regarding future cpu choice. If steam roller turns out to be a good processor, I will get that instead of intel. I basically want to get by until I can see what amd brings to the table in the future; while also removing my current bottleneck.
Edited by timaishu - 5/19/13 at 11:32am
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I plan on keeping the psu. It has about 4.5 years of use on it(brother and I had the same model, he upgraded in 2011, so I swapped mine for his).

I also just realized the ram I picked out is a single 8 gig stick. Doesn't look to be supported by that motherboard. Looks like I can get some XMS sticks for 10 bucks more that should work.

Which Tough Power model is it you have

Is it this?
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=7
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The FX 6350 might not be that much worth it... As someone who owns a 6200, I would say a quad or an 8 cores of the FX range. I only am "glad" I have two more cores over the quad cores when I am rendering videos.

If you are to choose from the 6300 and 6350, how about get the cheaper 6300 and OC it yourself? AFAIK the 6350 is just a pre-OCed 6300? If you are planning on a decent MB with 970/990FX chipset anyway I'm sure you're going to overclock anyway.

Please be gentle if I am wrong anywhere.
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Which Tough Power model is it you have

Is it this?
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=7

This is the exact model I have. Looks to be the exact same model other than mine being 700 watts.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153039
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The FX 6350 might not be that much worth it... As someone who owns a 6200, I would say a quad or an 8 cores of the FX range. I only am "glad" I have two more cores over the quad cores when I am rendering videos.

If you are to choose from the 6300 and 6350, how about get the cheaper 6300 and OC it yourself? AFAIK the 6350 is just a pre-OCed 6300? If you are planning on a decent MB with 970/990FX chipset anyway I'm sure you're going to overclock anyway.

Please be gentle if I am wrong anywhere.

I would still consider the 6300. I just figured I would get the 6350 because its only 10 dollars more. I figured I would have more overclocking headroom since it is already faster than the 6300?
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This is the exact model I have. Looks to be the exact same model other than mine being 700 watts.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153039
I would still consider the 6300. I just figured I would get the 6350 because its only 10 dollars more. I figured I would have more overclocking headroom since it is already faster than the 6300?

No its not the same model the one i linked is made by CWT the 700 watts you have is made by FSP

The PSU is at least 4-5 years old maybe 6 years so you really want to keep something that old in your new system?
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I would still consider the 6300. I just figured I would get the 6350 because its only 10 dollars more. I figured I would have more overclocking headroom since it is already faster than the 6300?

You're probably right, but the way I see it, and I'm probably wrong, is that the 6350 is based on the same Vishera from the 6300 and is only pre OCed in factory to make sales.... Much like the 6200 is to the 6100, maybe?

I THINK the headroom for both the 6350 and 6300 would be pretty much similar, since the architecture and speed etc are the same/similar? But it's not that much more expensive, really. So you're free to go for the 6350 I guess. I'm no expert, so good luck. redface.gif
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