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Poll Results: Sell keys on OCN?

 
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    Yes, we should be able to
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    No, it will cause too many headaches
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post #1 of 53
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Just making the thread to get some different views on this. Why isn't this allowed on OCN? I have games from the recent Video Card Bundles that I already have, and would like to trade them for games I don't already have.

Any specific reasoning we cannot sell or at least trades games with? You could at least put up an "At your own risk" part of the forum for this. I just don't agree with the immediate locking and preventing future game threads.



Are we allowed to bundle with hardware by any chance?
Edited by kaivorth - 5/19/13 at 2:06pm
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First of all you may not profit for your membership so selling or trading games you got for free would violate the ToS.

While the marketplace is at your own risk for all transactions there are simply more problems with digital items that we are not comfortable with.

2 scenarios
Member A sells a key to member B
Member A activates it before sending it or even before the sale
Member B has no proof that they did not activate the key

So Member A has the money and the key

Member A sells a key to member B
Member B states the key does not work and member A refunds
Member B activates the key

So Member B has the money and the key.

There is simply no way to verify to keys have not been used by the seller prior to sale/the buyer prior to a refund.
post #3 of 53
Well considering they want pictures of everything you sell with your SN in the picture it makes sense that they wouldn't want you selling something they cannot get a picture with, or at least a picture the verifies that you haven't used the key. It just leads to problems is probably their thinking. Either way I kind of like it because a lot of those games end up in the freebies section. I myself can't wait to give out some freebies to thank my fellow OC.net members.
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post #4 of 53
Yea trading keys is tricky like that, it's prob the best argument against it (you'd get the "oooookaaay on the count of 3 we trade rrreeady?" feeling).
Shouldn't be profit with a key trade, but I guess someone might ask for more if they were trading a $15 key VS one that's worth $60 etc.
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post #5 of 53
Isn't it illegal to sale those free codes that came with GPU? If so, then OCN have to abide.
post #6 of 53
true ghostrider makes a point lol.

also what if I bought a game and retail form? of course giving them for free wont matter either way right? like if you asked to trade a cd key for another cd key, but thats a decent amount of trust lol
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post #7 of 53
Are Steam inventory trades acceptable? The only concern I can see is telling the other party to buy game X into their inventory and then you will trade, and then you don't trade, so yeah... that could be messy. redface.gif
Edited by zinfinion - 5/19/13 at 1:52pm
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I have seen those game codes being sold on EBay, I was in the same boat when I bought my 7950, had just bought Crysis3 2 days before I ordered my video card, I wasn't even aware that the bundle came with the card. I made a thread trying to find someone willing to trade for far cry 3 and it was locked by bitemarks and bloodstains as well biggrin.gif If one were of a mind to sell or trade they would probably have great success on EBay thumb.gif
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post #9 of 53
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Originally Posted by Bitemarks and bloodstains View Post

First of all you may not profit for your membership so selling or trading games you got for free would violate the ToS.

While the marketplace is at your own risk for all transactions there are simply more problems with digital items that we are not comfortable with.

2 scenarios
Member A sells a key to member B
Member A activates it before sending it or even before the sale
Member B has no proof that they did not activate the key

So Member A has the money and the key

Member A sells a key to member B
Member B states the key does not work and member A refunds
Member B activates the key

So Member B has the money and the key.

There is simply no way to verify to keys have not been used by the seller prior to sale/the buyer prior to a refund.
What membership are you talking about? The games aren't exactly free, I paid $220 for the GPU with the games.

A at your own risk sub thread would solve the being reliable portion
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Originally Posted by ghostrider85 View Post

Isn't it illegal to sale those free codes that came with GPU? If so, then OCN have to abide.

I'm sure it is not illegal to trade. I have vouchers for games. I can't trade for other vouchers or games?


Would we be allowed to bundle the said games with other hardware to sell?
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The games are free, you paid $220 for a GPU and got some games with it, anyone purchasing the GPU before or after the promotion will pay $220 for a GPU with no games.

Again the entire FS/wanted is at your own risk.

You can bundle the software with the hardware it came with.
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