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When my G5 died, I didn't immediately replace it (at least not with a gaming mouse). I have now decided to start trying a few mice out to see which one would fit my need for a more serious gaming mouse for games such as Crysis 3, Battlefield 3, and Far Cry 2.

My first try was a Razer Deathadder 2013 after MANY days of reading reviews on performance and ergonomics. I prefer the palm-type grip (as I did with my G5), and just about everything pointed to this being a palm-grip mouse. Nope. Not happening, at least not for me. Yes, the sensor is great, but I was forced to claw-grip it, and since the right-side of the mouse is convex (opposed to the concave I'm used to), even a claw-grip is very uncomfortable for me with the Deathadder. Exchanged it for a Logitech G500s.

The ergonomics were just as expected from a Logitech gaming mouse: superb. Palm-grip is great, and the feel is cozy. The sensor, on the other hand, is abysmal. I can't tell if what I'm experiencing is because of where the sensor is located (towards the front of the mouse instead of the middle), or if it's the sensor itself. There seems to be a bit of an issue with accuracy. There's a bit of negative acceleration, regardless of sensitivity settings, regardless of the settings on the Logitech Gaming Software, and regardless of whether or not I'm using generic Windows drivers vs Logitech drivers. I've heard of positive acceleration with laser mice, but this is the exact opposite. The sensor, ever so slightly and barely discernibly, trails just behind my movements. It's almost like the cursor/reticle has to catch up with my movements. It's annoying, and I don't remember seeing this with the G5 at all. Again, this could be due to the placement of the sensor and how my hand moves, or it could be the sensor itself.

Either way, I'm done with the G500s. I'm now going to exchange it for the G400s, which uses a completely different sensor than the G500s, but has the same ergonomics as the G5 that I'm used to anyway.
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I think you'll be very happy with the G400. smile.gif
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post #3 of 22
I bought a SteelSeries Sensei, coming from the G500, I found it to be a lot better in terms of comfort and accuracy.

I thought I had a palm grip but for some reason, after using the Sensei, the G500 felt so heavy, sluggish and uncomfortable.

I would never pay MSRP for either though as it is outrageous.
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At least you didn't get to the point where the cord shorted out smile.gif
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post #5 of 22
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I took a look at a SteelSeries Sensei at Best Buy, but it definitely has a claw-grip design (for me). This Friday I'm going to swap my G500s for a G400s. The G500s is definitely heavy, even without the weights (I never used the weights in the G5).
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post #6 of 22
The off-center, forward position sensor takes some time to adjust to. Since you don't like it, you could try the G400s since the shape is kind of similar. The G400s uses optical sensor (which is basically just as good as laser sensor).
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I've noticed with optical vs laser that there seems to be a bit more of a "snappy" response with optical, and laser is a little "smoother". I had high hopes for this G500s, but unlike the awesome G5, sensor placement is just killing me. I might be swapping it after work today, if the weather is nice (it's an 80 mile round trip).
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post #8 of 22
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Just got my new G400S that I swapped from the G500S. Even with generic Windows drivers, It's far better in terms of sensor accuracy and responsiveness. I love the G400S! biggrin.gif
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post #9 of 22
The g500s has a defective sensor and this has been confirmed by pretty much EVERY user who has purchased it. It produces horrendous lag.

The 8200dpi sensor in the g500s uses the same defective firmware as the g600. Logitech has refused to acknowledge the issue so don't expect any fix as the g600 users have been, and still are ignored for the past 6 months.

DONT buy the g500s, its defective and logitech will not fix this lag issue. This is NOT an isolated case. The firmware is defective and ALL units are using the same firmware.
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actually, that issues has been fixed by firmware upgrade by now(can be found on the G500S Support Page) and Logitech has even put out an official apology.
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